“For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.” - H. L. Mencken
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Just because the U.S. government is spending money on something does not mean it is a good idea.
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Tunisia’s border with Libya is shorter and more easily patrolled than Mexico’s with the U.S.
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The situation is completely different – the purpose of the wall is to keep out Islamist militants, not immigrants. Mexicans are much, much more numerous than jihadists, and many of them want to come to the U.S. to make money, which is an even more powerful motivator than a religious-political agenda one is willing to die for. If a wall is built, they will find ways over, under, or around it, and the number of undocumented immigrants in the U.S. will hold steady at 10 million or so.
Only one thing could get any significant numbers of them to leave: A Great Depression. If Trump becomes POTUS, immigrants will leave – for that reason alone.
Actually many were already told about that, your report comes from 2 years ago. CBS, ABC and FOX already noted that back then.
We do bring them here in the sense that our economic system provides irresistible incentives, and efforts to reduce the incentive or increase the disincentive are resisted by establishment politicians doing the bidding of the business interests they represent.
There is so much more to it than these. These are not “workers”, these are people who have the same sorts of needs and desires for a fulfilling life, companionship, and sex that everyone else has.
The entire situation is exploitative. Just because they don’t generally choose to go back to a worse situation doesn’t mean it’s not. Your view of the situation is very simplistic. There is no blight line boundary in Mexico or the border area between cartel and law enforcement, or between human smuggler and helpful, appreciated paid border consultant.
What do you imagine that those guys standing outside of Home Depot do when they get off work 4.5 hours after you do, after having arrived two hours earlier?
Every job is important to the people who have it, and the jobs you are talking about used to be a reliable source of income for the most economically vulnerable people in our country, as well as for people new to the job market who need that first job to get them into the habit of being productive citizens.
They are certainly far more likely to commit the crime of illegally crossing the border.
I am interested to know your source for the claim that it’s easy to prove that they don’t carry more disease than the average American.
So what? Immigrant activism is rooted in anti-white racism to some degree. That doesn’t nullify or diminish the importance of the issues raised.
A whole lot of people disagree with you, and they have been without political representation on the issue.
“Noted” is completely different than what is going to happen if Trump gets the nomination.
But we are far richer and have far more technology at our fingertips to assist us.
You are right that the situations are vastly different. Still, it’s really naive to think that the numbers of illegal immigrants present can not be reduced. If the people who hire them are cracked down on then they will have a much harder time trying to find work, and will be far less likely to stay here or to come back when they are deported.
He’s defending Paterno. That in itself is bad. But it’s also politically bad. It might make sense politically (though amorally) if he did it in State College. Paterno still has supporters there. But he said it in Pittsburgh, not State College. Wrong school. The U of P Panthers are rivals of Penn State’s Nittany Lions.
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Meh, she will say “old news” that she already replied to, (yes I did check that) and the media is very annoying on that (there are many new items coming from the climate change front but a lot of the editors are of the “we covered that already” school so not much is mentioned now) but the media will have to acknowledge that they already did cover it too, and Trump just shows how late he is getting things.
A minority of voters does not a “whole lot” make. And in what way have they been without representation? Have they not been voting? Just because their views are not popular enough to elect the candidates that share them does not mean they are without representation. Elections have consequences.
Look at the way the question is phrased: “% of voters who say undocumented immigrants in the US, who meet certain requirements, should not be allowed to stay legally”=25%.
That’s 80 million Americans. That’s definitely a whole lot. And it doesn’t include all of the people like me who want more done than is done now, but do not outright oppose allowing every last illegal immigrant to stay legally.
They have been voting over and over again for people who pay lip service to the issue and then, when they get elected, just keep doing the bidding of their donors and cronies. Their cronies benefit from the labor glut because of business interests or because they are those of upper middle or higher class, who are more likely to employ illegal immigrants who scrub their toilets, weed their gardens, care for their children, and replace the Spanish clay tiles on their 3/4 million dollar houses in the gated communities they live in.
So you favor 25% of the people dictating policy to the other 75%? Not getting your way is not the same as not getting a voice. This is America, if you can’t get more than 25% of the public behind something, then what makes you think that it should go forward? Seems to me you should focus more on convincing the public than voting for the lip-service payers as you describe them. If you can get the majority of the public to back the idea then the politicians will follow suit. Otherwise you’re essentially advocating a coup by the minority or something? Again, just because a minority of the public wants something does not mean they are entitled to have it.
Of course, but they can get those things in Mexico, and not have to watch over their shoulders for La Migra. What they come here for is money.
So? That is no American’s fault. Except to the extent that the American governments anti-drug policies and the American peoples bottomless drug-appetite is what allows the cartels to exist. In any case, obviously the Mexican immigrants do not want American government to relieve their “exploitation” by deporting them. Other things government perhaps could do to relieve their exploitation – e.g., cracking down on exploitative employers in such a way that the immigrants themselves are in no danger of being caught up in the net – would be politically impossible for several obvious reasons.
Go home, eat, maybe watch some TV, and go to bed. What would you do?
Here, here, here, here, here. In fact, the only contrary cites I can find are from nonsources like the Washington Times.
I doubt that very much. No doubt some Mexicans do have some anti-white feeling (mainly directed against Mexico’s own ruling class), but that cannot possibly be their reason for wanting to stay in a country full of white people.
But the racism in anti-immigrant feeling is compelling grounds to evaluate the importance of the issues very skeptically.
I dunno about that. They have Arpaio and he ain’t unique, and they have Trump as the GOP frontrunner, and probably some sympathizers in Congress whose names are better known to you than me.
Even President Trump and a sympathetic majority in Congress would find that politically impossible.
Immigration is the least of the problems donor-domination of pols causes.
The 25% is only those who want every last illegal immigrant gone no matter the circumstances. There is a lot of room between there and where we are now.
The latest Pew datashows that Americans are evenly split on a wall across the entire US border, for example.
In May the split was 41%/51% on the question of whether immigrants strengthen or are a burden on our country. But that is immigration generally, not just illegal immigration.
Bloomberg reports that Sixty-one percent of Americans agree that “continued immigration into the country jeopardizes the United States,”
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I’m sure Heidi Cruz agrees with that.
No, that is not the latest Pew poll on the wall. This is, from March 31, 2016, and it says that 59% oppose the building of a wall on the border. Only 38% support the wall.
Is that the one he wants to b*ng?