Mocking someone claiming nativism as stridently as humanly possible because he’s superficially hiding the fact that he’s an immigrant is a little different from mocking him just because his real name is foreign.
…er I should say from immigrants…
It’s not weird that you read him, it’s weird how often you link to him/bring him up.
Well, I disagree it didn’t work, as I still see it and read it all the time. Personally, as someone from the leftish side of things, I find it idiotic, sophomoric, and offensive. Why is it supposed to be funny? Because it’s a funny sounding Germanic name? Maybe I’m reading it wrong, but I can’t help but find it a bit uncomfortable. Mocking someone for their name or changing the name or whatever this is supposed to be mocking is low.
Trump sat on the debate stage talking about how his dick wasn’t really tiny because Rubio made a dumb joke at a rally.
People who are capable of shrugging off mockery don’t do that.
You, Claverhouse and Hank Beecher are ignoring that the reason why Oliver reached for the Drumpf meme was because Trump was the one that did go “sophisticated” first.
http://gawker.com/donald-trump-lashes-out-at-jon-stewart-for-revealing-hi-489657795
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“I promise you that I’m much smarter than Jonathan Leibowitz - I mean Jon Stewart @TheDailyShow,” tweeted Trump, adding, “Who, by the way, is totally overrated.”
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Of course Jon Stewart did respond too, Trump only did show how he is the one that got his nerve hit.
This ignorance you show is more noticeable because I did pointed at Trump being the one that wondered how ashamed Steward should be ‘by changing his original name’ (He did not, his immigrant ancestors did, just like Trump.)
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Karl Rove Loses It On Fox News Election Night (2008)
I mean Rove may had found the way earlier, but now he is a joke as Trump himself told us. Rove totally failed to stop Trump BTW.
That he started his dirty tricks under Strom Thurmond should be enough to disqualify him, but as usual Republicans guys liked him.
As pointed, Rove and Atwater could in other times, now it is clear that they would had a hard time because they would had found that the dog whistle politics of the past was not effective with many Republican voters when Trump is using a megaphone to attract just about half of the Republicans and win that way. It just so happens that his mockery is not really working with most of the electorate. And it will work less because I have to see that a lot of the mockery against Trump will come from many members of the right wing media that are finding a spine and realizing that bullshit politics should not fly in this case.
Did not have time to add more recent examples of mockery from the right against Trump.
http://townhall.com/columnists/kevinmccullough/2016/04/17/why-trump-loses-n2149653/page/full
As I pointed before, I have trouble remembering a time when the right wing media was not united against the Democratic candidate, and I do think that there will be several that will (finally) put country before party in the case of Trump. I can not see mockery and serious criticism like that to fail to land in several conservative ears because it does come from media that they rely on.
Pretty sure that’s incorrect. Stewart did change his own name.
Stage name. And maybe more.
:smack: Ok coffee needs to kick in, you are right, but similar reasoning should had be seen by the Trump ancestors when coming to America. According to a search I just made he had his surname legally changed to Stewart in 2001. So I would say that Trump still failed.
The point remains that others are ignoring that the reason why Oliver reached for the Drumpf meme was because Trump was the one that did go “sophisticated” first.
Trump is winning the delegate messaging fight:
Used to be around 52% saying “The guy in the lead should win” and is now 62%.
I wonder, when was the last time a candidate was nominated with only a plurality?
I cite him exactly as often as I would otherwise be tempted to add essentially the same thing to the discussion, but without attribution of how the idea came to me. I was raised to believe this is just best practices, but apparently it is “weird”. Who knew!
You should probably stop that. It does not reflect well on you.
Ok, no need to be so defensive. Just thought it was a little odd is all.
You don’t get defensive when people tell you you are being weird? Good for you, I guess. 
If you think saying that is going to make me do anything but double down, you don’t know me very well.
Drumpf Drumpf Drumpf Drumpf Drumpf. Drumpf! 
Ever since I heard that Drumpf’s speeches have been measured as being on a very low grade level, I really notice it (although this may of course be the power of suggestion). Most recently, on the Sunday shows today they repeatedly played a sound bite of him saying “The system is a bad, bad system”. There’s one word in that sentence longer than three letters (used twice). :smack: WTF, is he really this simpleminded or is he consciously speaking to the “poorly educated”, for whom he has specifically stated his “love”? I lean toward the latter (he does have a degree from an Ivy, after all), which is all the more creepy and diabolical.
Actually, I wish people wouldn’t do the “Drumpf” thing because I think it’s insulting to all the respectable non-asshole people actually named Drumpf. What did they do to deserve being gratuitously associated with this loudmouthed orange troll?
Everyone else’s speeches are prepared. When Trump delivers a prepared speech it is at as high or higher level as all the others. And of course these measurements depend largely on word length and syllable count, so Sander’s are fluffed up by the endlessly repeated pseudo-intellectual ranting about “oligarchy” and “billionaires”, which doesn’t add any actual sophistication to his message.
Out of curiosity, I ran some different things through here: https://readability-score.com/
The speeches that Trump and Clinton gave at AIPAC, and that Bernie planned to give, all measure at 11th grade level. Trump’s WSJ editorial at 10th.
Bernie’s other speeches look to be at 9th or 10th. Clinton’s at 10th or 11th. Trump’s at 5th or 6th.
Kurt Vonnegut’s famous letter to Drake Scool Board measures at 8.5th, as does Hemingway’sspeechto the Nobel Banquet in Stockholm.
FDR’s first inaugural addressmeasures at 12. Obama’s at 10th.
Truman’s speech announcing the Hiroshima bombing measures at 11th. His radio address about food conservation 9th. Reagan’s prepared campaign speech in NJ 8.5.
Let’s not delude ourselves that Trump actually wrote that one.