And what do you think is ‘going on’?
I don’t need to show what is going on, I only need to show that what you said was wrong, and it most certainly is not about every rule change or mod interaction, as you stated.
As far as I know, it isn’t about a rule change at all, unless Tuba’s contradictory instructions are intended to be a backhanded way of informing us of such.
If you would care to take a swing at how we can do what she said without breaking the rules, then by all means, go ahead.
Its self-important whinging, the most important kind.
I think there seems to be a bias in hanging on every ambiguity (real or imagined) and them amplifying them to crisis level-----enough to create this maelstrom of injustice that hangs over us like a cloud.
Enough already.
I don’t need to parse Tuba’s words. I’ve been around long enough to know what’s expected of me. Tuba’s words are part of this continuum of discontent that has us challenging a mod, and them challenging the response, and then challenging the response to the response…
Enough already.
Mixed metaphor notwithstanding, but this is where I think you mischaracterize things. People are complaining. So what? That hardly makes it a cloud that hangs over all of us. And mhendo’s post was not nearly the doom and gloom you portrayed it to be.
What should we do when we see obvious contradictions if not ask about them?
So because the mods challenge a response rather than actually respond we should just stop asking? We’ll have to agree to disagree on that one.
You may suggest that. I will give your suggestion all the consideration that it deserves.
I think there seems to be a bias in hanging on every complaint or criticism of moderator actions and amplifying them to crisis level.
I never said this was a crisis, and “maelstrom of injustice” is your phrase, not mine. I would simply like to know (a) why the thread was closed when there was no need for it, and (b) why TubaDiva, in closing the thread, gave instructions that contradict the very rules she was supposedly enforcing.
If you are not interested in the answers to these questions, then unsubscribing from this thread is a very simple procedure. I suggest you take it. Although, as suggested earlier, it seems that even remaining subscribed is unlikely to yield any answers, given TubaDiva’s lack of interest in actually responding.
Well?
You and Oakminster should talk…
And you should explain how this advances the discussion.
Probably because they are the same kind of crazy people that when they ask a question expect an answer. Crazy, I tell you.
Replace crazy with “whiney”, and expect with “demand”, and I feel sure you will realise why the message board volunteers may not be bothered wasting their time giving certain posters more ammunition for nitpicking.
I couldn’t avoid hearing pompous patriotic music playing in the background while I read about our sacrificed volunteers. Well played.
I actually meant crazy without any hint of sarcasm. Ostriching has long been a admin tradition around here and you would have to be crazy to expect an answer to an uncomfortable question. Don’t get too riled up.
Sorry, that was just my ringer. I have to take this…a little privacy?
So my hyperbole is horrible, but the other side is perfectly fine.
Look, I was angry, and I don’t think as well when I’m angry. I saw Idle’s post as the biggest threadshit ever, and it pissed me off. You want complain about a bunch of posters, you have a forum specifically designed for that.
But still, it messes with me how many of you guys can’t look over the hyperbolic anger and read what substance is there. The whole point was to say that it’s stupid to assume that those of us complaining are actually hurting anyone. I can cook up just as stupid an excuse for why it’s helpful.
If I were really a revolutionary, I’d be doing a lot worse than complaining in this forum in a way that I haven’t even gotten a flipping mod note.
I honestly think it’s certain mods that need to get over themselves, and stop doing things to make it where they don’t have to take crap, but every last one of us has to live with it.
I also think that, if the response is always going to be “We do what we want, and if you don’t like it, tough,” they should shut off all mod complaints, or, better yet put them in the Pit where people can get angry, get it all out, and then get on with their lives, instead leaving the anger boiling just under the surface.
Finally, I stand by my bullying comment. I still think that everyone saying “If you don’t like it, leave” is being disingenuous. It’s only a small minority on this board that are doing things I don’t like, and I see no reason to let them ruin the whole thing for me.
Now I’m going to gallop away, and y’all can signal the bell if you need me or want to make fun of me again.
[sub]pssst–I think it was lights that were the signal…just sayin’…[/sub]
if he’s galloping, isn’t that Zorro? church bells make sense for summoning Zorro.
Gee, Sam. I think bells have been used for signals more often than lights.
BigT, you seem to be a very direct and honest person. You are not afraid of admitting when anger has had an influence on your post that may have been not exactly what you wish you had said. I wish some of the moderators had more of these qualities. Some of them used to and some of them are still in touch with these traits from time to time. Some have never lost their humility and some see admissions of human error as a weakness.
I haven’t found a good reason for ignoring a question to a moderator yet. Even when I was teaching and students asked me questions that I chose not to answer, I would give them good reasons why I wasn’t going to give them answers.
This still will not convince “the silent one” to respond. But there should be a rule about moderators giving some acknowledgment and a reasonable reply. Anything else is being a jerk when it is compared to the recent rudeness that marley23 experienced in PM and designated as jerkishness.
One if by land, two if by sea. I thought the allusion was about Paul Revere. I could have been wrong.
I missed the earlier reference to Paul Revere.
ME. cunte, count(e), corresponding to ON. kunta (Norw., Sw. dial. kunta, Da. dial. kunte), OFris., MLG., MDu. kunte:Gmc. *kuntn wk. fem.; ulterior relations uncertain.
(shamelessly cribbed from the online OED)
Earliest recorded usage of the word is from around 1230 where it was the name of a street: Gropecuntlane. I wonder what sorts of things went on down there. (I don’t actually wonder, before anyone takes it in their head to educate me.)
Words are cool. I think it’s silly to make some words taboo because that only strengthens their power. Forbidden fruit and all that. Fenris showed that the ban is not achieving the hoped-for effect although anyone who’s done any studying of Prohibition type efforts could have told you that. And anyway, the word itself is not offensive. It’s just a collection of sounds. It’s the intent precipitating the usage of the word that is meant to hurt. You don’t need a specific word to hurt.
But if that’s the hill you want to die, far be it for the rest of us to deny you your valiant suffering. So lead on Straight Dope and damned be him who first cries, Hold! Enough!