No. What would have been an insult is if he said “That dumb bitch won’t be happy until this place is a dull clone of her own mediocrity”. What he said was innocent and could only be construed as insult by someone who is a little overly sensitive. Why don’t you ask her if she felt insulted?:dubious:
By repeatedly bumping the thread, it wouldn’t make someone want to respond to him anymore than they did previously. I was not the subject of the OP, so my response doesn’t matter in that regard; much as Arnold’s response didn’t matter to you in this regard.
But that isn’t my question. I’m not asking what won’t work, I’m asking what will. Is there a handshake? A ritual? What? I…I don’t feel like this should be a hard question. Don’t you guys want us to know what the rules are?
Your mama wears combat boots.
If it weren’t true, perhaps. As it is, and since it happened, perhaps not.
I’m still waiting to see what poster said that the entire act of criticism is outlawed. Or is that a game you are playing with me?
mhendo, I think you’re a great poster, as I said before. So I’m not trying to get into a fight with you. But I’ll continue to disagree with you on this. You don’t have to be respectful, but being polite would be better.
If someone I didn’t know very well approached me at one of my volunteer jobs (I have a couple) by saying “Are you kidding me?” and “Do you even read this stuff you’re talking about?” I would think that person is somewhat of a jerk. I personally would answer them depending on the circumstances. On the other hand, I would feel free to ignore them or give them a sarcastic non-answer. If I’m doing something for free I have a lower tolerance for it. At my paying job it would be different.
But if a friend of mine told me that someone refused to answer their questions after they started off like that, I would tell my friend “I’m sorry, you kind of brought it on yourself.”
It is not a requirement, but since you asked what would work: being polite would work.
We have one guiding principle: Don’t be a jerk. Do not do this again. You have been warned.
-xash
Administrator
Look, the respect thing bugs me, too. I really don’t think a person should have to be polite to get an answer, especially on a board where you can insult every other person.
It seems to me that the requirements for civil discourse in ATMB is higher than everywhere else. There are times when I’ve been downright insulting to other people in non-pit forums, and I’ve never gotten even a Mod Note (unless I’ve missed one). All I did was make sure I’d removed any flat-out name calling.
It seems to me that, the mods, who have a ton of power, should be less sensitive to insulting remarks. Part of your job as a moderator is to “moderate” said responses, and, if you take it personally, you’re just making that job much harder.
Having said all this: why fight so dadgomed hard to say you were right? Do what you have to do with customer support: follow the rules exactly. Give them no excuse to disparage you. Apologize even when you don’t mean it. Is not your point more important than your personal pride?
Amen to the whole thing. More so in the case of the mods who have made a lifestyle of being rude and flippant. I have a big head and it still doesn’t have enough room for my eyes to roll all the way they need when one of those characters plops a “I haven’t answered because you didn’t say pretty please with sugar on top”.
Just do your job in a way that says “I care about customer support”. And if you are not cut for that then give it to someone who does. Being all boohoo about everything does nothing to help this site. And isn’t helping this site the reason you are selflessly volunteering your service?
Amazing.
More shitty, high-strung moderation. It never ceases to amaze me when the modes react this way to supposed challenges to their authority. Do you think this makes you look fearsome? Because it only succeeds in making you look very, very small and very, very risible.
I’m glad its not just me who doesn’t get this one. I took **Contrapunctual’**s original comment as being just a silly joke.
But it makes for great entertainment!
Is there a monthly quota the mods have to make in dishing out warnings?
And while we are at it, where is Arnold’s warning for his constant junior modding?
Just like Lynn made up this rule about no joke threads in the pit, xash made up one about no jokes in ATMB.
Of course he was joking. The problem is that if you have a no insults rule, you can’t be in the business of having to figure out if an insult is really a joke or not. You just have to warn them all and let God sort it out or whatever. This is why the rule is a bad one.
[Moderator Note]
I see no instance of Arnold “junior modding” in this thread; he is just giving his opinions on the matter like any number of other posters. If he deserves a warning, then so does most other posters in this thread. (In any case, Arnold, as a moderator emeritus on this board, has a lot of insight on the subject.) If you think he is in violation of the rules, then report it. By publicly calling for a warning, you are junior modding. Don’t do this again.
But he wasn’t warned for insults. He was warned for “being a jerk”.
I am more and more convinced that “being a jerk” actually translates to “being someone that an overly-touchy mod doesn’t like and presenting the opportunity for a ridiculous triviality to be the cause of a warning or banning”.
“Your momma wears combat boots” gets a warning, but some of the posters in the closed threads, who happen to supporting mod decisions, get away with calling people “fucking whiners” and “crybabies” and other sorts of things?
I really can’t think of a way you could more clearly demonstrate that these subjective rules are nothing more than an excuse to punish people due to peevish oversensitivity.