Have I been muted for some reason?
What do you mean?
It’s just lately I’ll ask simple questions in a thread and be completely ignored; such as this one:
There are literally half a dozen thread in recent memory on the topic, most of them quite lengthy and in-depth. Do a search and read them. You’ll know as much about the books and what Dopers think of them as you’d ever want to.
Well, for starters, even before they started dating, he would sneak into her house at night so he could watch her sleep. If he thought she was in danger, he would basically arrange it so that she was unable to leave the house – with the help of his sister Alice. (By disabling her car, making her a virtual prisoner in his own home, etc)
And all of this only makes her sigh and go, “Oh EDWARD, you’re so wonderful!!!”
shudder
Her best friend Jacob’s even more of a stalker.
My understanding, Nobody, is that it’s considered misogynistic because of the fucked-up nature of Bella and Edward’s relationship. Edward behaves as a stalker, suffers a few violent outbursts, and reserves the right to make all decisions regarding their relationship and her life. And Bella, though she may sometimes put up a cursory fight, more or less lets him, and sees many of the aspects that readers find creepy or stalkertastic as evidence of true love. Or whatever.
No, you were ignored because you’re Nobody. Duh.
An especially touching scene in the movie (not sure if it’s the same in the book, I didn’t make it that far) has Bella telling Edward she can’t dance. His reply?
“I could make you.”
Not “I could help you” or “I could teach you” but “I could *make *you”.
He then grabs her and jumps out the window with her and jumps right up to the top of a tree with Bella in tow. This is romantic somehow, I guess because her safety is totally reliant on Edward’s good nature.
Our culture has come along way in the heartthrob department since the days of Dylan McKay. This guy is making Dawson Leery look downright hot, flowbee do and all…
Yes, the same dude who blinded Polyphemus.
Perhaps I was being a little bit lazy, but I just figured that the people making the accusations could pop off an example or two. I’m no to interested in in-depth analysis.
Yeah, that does sound pretty bad. Reminds me of when I was in high school and we saw “My Fair Lady.” At the end of the movie Eliza comes back, despite how awful Higgins had treated her. All the girls in the class were all “Awwww, that’s so sweet.” All of us guys were like “WTF?”
That does sound pretty messed up to me.
:smack: I keep forgetting.
I’m more partial to Norse Mythology.
The cyclops in The Odyssey. Odysseus introduced himself to the Cyclops as “Nemo” (“Nobody”), and so when he and his crew attacked, the cyclops cried out “Help! Help! Nemo is killing me!”, to which all of the other cyclopes in the neighboring caves answered “If nobody’s killing you, then quit complaining!”.
I get it. It’s kind of like a book about a girl that falls in love with Santa Claus, who’s a blond-haired clean-shaven hard-bodied surfer who never gives presents and hates children.
Oh yeah, I do remember that after all.
Right you are. I think the “A. N.” of A. N. Roquelaure (Anne Rice) knocked the “M. T.” right out of my head, even though I remembered “Mt. Anderson” from one of his YA sleuth parodies.
Oooh, good example. Now sure, we’d buy one or two of these as artistic license (I could see the blond part, easy), but once he has nothing in common with the original (other than the name), then he’s no longer “Santa Claus” just someone named “Santa Claus”.
Chronos- right, thanks!
For an awesome summary of the plot for twilight and the sequal novels see this page on cracked. http://www.cracked.com/funny-36-twilight/
Which contains and awesome line about book 4
“Jacob the Pedophile Date Rapist Werewolf is babysitting the Little Loch Ness Monster Vampire Baby from Hell.”
I ordered 50 copies of Hogg and I am in the process of replacing them with false “Twilight” bindings. After this is done I will distribute them in local libraries, including those in the public school system. “Twilight” is a propagandist polemic that is systematically destroying the brains of our youth and turning them into soulless drones - only the adventures of Hogg, Cocksucker, Wop, Nigger and Denny, brilliantly brought to life by the magic pen of Samuel Delany, can bring them enlightenment and free them from the mental slavery of “Twilight.”
The constant “what Sookie’s wearing” thing drives me crazy, largely because what Sookie’s wearing is generally awful, and I’m not entirely sure Harris realizes that. Do people really wear so much nylon in Louisiana? Seems like it’d be awful hot.
My friend brought me the first three books to amuse me while I’m recovering from some minor surgery, and they’re like literary Pringles. I’m like “Oh my god, these are AWFUL!!! Corrinne, run to Borders for me and buy the next four!” 
Having read the first three, I’m Team Eric. Or Team Sam. Maybe Alcide. Hell, Team Pam, I don’t care. Team Anyone But Bill. Bill is booooooooooooring.
Yeah, it really drives me nuts when people start saying the vampires in Twilight aren’t real vampires. Especially since a lot of criteria used for making them “not-vampires” would also disqualify Angel. And you can’t badmouth a Buffyverse character on this board without somebody getting the vapors.
They’re vampires. Who sparkle. Deal with it.