This is nasty and thread shitting. Any further discussion asking these lives will bring you a formal warning.
And I’d ask everyone not to comment on it further. Thanks.
Well, back to the original topic… I do appreciate everyone’s stories from the trenches. And your updates, msmith. Do keep us posted on your current situation, and future plans/dreams.
I worked in marketing for many, many years. If done right, marketing is built from an understanding of customers and their needs. I found building a business plan for my products and launching them into the world really satisfying. I also enjoyed working with partners (other companies) to help them build successful business plans and sell products. But, yes, helluva a lot of meetings. I used to have to block out chunks of my calendar to get work done.
Hell to the yes. My best experiences were with co-workers who held to an internal agreement that sales, marketing, and product were always in lock step. Included in every meeting, and cc’ed on every email. Some flexibility there, of course, but far less cowboy-ing.
My best guess - you’re responsible for the e-store OR you’re reporting to the VP of Sales, and you’re responsible for online infrastructure. It depends on how much upper level visibility you want. IME, with apologies to anyone reading who might be in said group, upper level management at large companies is a snake pit. YMMV. It pays much better though.
I think Microsoft is a good place to land, if that works out. Avoid Amazon. It’s about their culture. I’d be glad to expound on that if you’d like.
That’s how things were at my previous company. Not perfect, mind you. But it was a lot more structured in that I wasn’t handed a shit show and told “fix this” while being retroactively held responsible for actions taken before I even joined the company.
From what I know about them, I’m pretty sure I have no interest in Amazon or any of the other “FAANG” companies. I’d certainly be interested in hearing your thoughts.
Of course “upper management” at large companies is a snake pit. Same with medium size companies like my last way. They are abstracted out from the day to day work so that makes them free to just say and do whatever they want without regard for how it will actually get done. And what they say and do is typically meant to fuck each other over so they can jockey for position.
I too have just started a new job and I think I might hate it. The hours are perfect, the drive is a little long, but not bad and they are paying me what I asked for.
But I hate the atmosphere. It’s unkind and bitchy. The owner and his head honcho appear to hate one another. And it just rolls all throughout the place. Ugh, I hate it, but I feel stuck. I was hired because I can cover for someone who has a vacation coming up and I just feel obligated to stay through that.
Damn it. I thought I was done looking for work.
Don’t feel obligated to stay in a job you hate if something better comes along.
If your offer was contingent on you covering for that person, and you knew/agreed to it when you accepted, then yeah; you should stay for at least that long. But there’s absolutely no reason you can’t start looking as soon as you’ve given yourself some time to recover from the last job search (and time to come to terms with needing to do it again…sorry about that, btw). Assuming a vacation of no longer than two weeks, you could put in your notice the day your “covering” duties begin.
This sentence really hit home for me. Nice succinct encapsulation.
Interestingly, I just heard from one of my former colleagues that she quit the company with no job lined up due to “culture and values” issues. And the head of our group apparently also quit to go back to his old industry. Seems like there was a lot of changes and upheaval across the company over the past month or so.
So I guess it wasn’t my imagination that the company, in fact, sucked.
Doesn’t help me find a new job though.