U.S. health care system least efficient, most expensive, of 7 industrialized countries'

According to a new report by the Commonwealth Fund:

Issue for debate: Well, why?

Added: Mods, please change thread title (why can’t we edit thread titles ourselves?!) to “least efficient, most expensive”

It looks like the “most” and “least” got switched in the thread title.

I knew there had to be an error as soon as I saw the thread title.

The two questions are unrelated.

We are the most expensive because the way that people get health coverage is as a perk of employment rather than as a service, so over time this has led to rising costs. Better coverage is “rewarded” to you, rather than costing you something. It’s also led to people losing their coverage when they lose their job and/or retire. Retiring is, of course, heavily linked to needing good coverage, which is also linked to not being able to get any because you have a pre-existing condition or are in a high-risk group and have no salary. But that said, you can still go to the emergency room, and of course you can still get on medicaid, so while a hassle, this really doesn’t affect all that many people, regardless of the horror stories you hear.

As for why Americans don’t live that long, it probably comes down to having a lot of poor people compared to most other nations – which is probably related a) to our whole motto of “Give us your poor, your tired, your huddled masses longing to be free”, and b) to still recuperating from having some 12% of our population be the great grandchildren of slaves – and having a lot of obese people. It’s likely that the US could gain 2 years of longevity, on average, by eating more healthy.

Further information:

http://assets.opencrs.com/rpts/RL34175_20070917.pdf

Done. And for the record, it’s a vBulletin issue.

And in other news, the Pope is Catholic!

Perhaps the mods should consider changing the thread title once more, by inserting a “Why” in the beginning and a question mark at the end – this would better reflect the OP’s intended debate.

Part of it is that America blows the lid of cutting edge care.

For everyday common things from colds to broken bones to an average heart attack the USA is lacking over Western nations. But you bring in medicine from the forefront and new technologies and advanced cutting edge therapies and America blows everyone out of the water.

If you have rare cancer you’re much better in the USA than Europe. But how many have a rare cancer? If you have Conjoined twins, you’re better off in America. How many twins are conjoined?

The article is address things that are average and measurable. Look at HIV drugs. All but a handful were developed in America by “Big Pharma.”

America has severe issues with not treating people BEFORE the fact. You can’t go to an ER unless it’s an emergency. So by the time you can get treated it’s much worse. Common sense will tell you it’s much more effective and cheaper to treat a bad heart before this bad heart has a heart attack. But if you’re poor in the USA, you don’t get that choice.

If you listen to American’s living abroad, they usually come back with the opinion that if you need average everyday care for routine things such as colds, heart attack or broken arm Europe is better, but not as good once medical problems get complicated

Preventative care most likely doesn’t save money:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/business/08leonhardt.html?ex=1344225600&en=d7df12bae3f08026&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/358/7/661

Of course, it doesn’t cost more money either, so of the two you’d rather have people healthy, happy, and going to work (i.e. preventative care).