Heh, so you’re a 25-year-old male with aspirations of being Paris Hilton? I admire Bentleys for their rareness, beauty and prestige as well, but I never understood the fascination with posing in front of things like that for photos. Same deal with people at auto shows. What do you need pictures for of yourself in front of a rare car that isn’t yours? All the car companies spend a lot of money to get fantastic professional photographs taken of their cars that are hundreds of times better than any photos most people can take, and you can get them for free off the internet in a few seconds. Just more testimony to the pompousness of these gold-digging airheads. “omg look at us, we pose in front of expensive things that don’t belong to us! lol aren’t we cute?”
Documented instances where? And what was the airline’s response to the complaint?
I completely 100% disagree with the last line of your assertation. This is a completely unfair blanket statement for you to assign.
Did you complain about it somewhere besides an anonymous message board?
Ignoring celebrities for a second, I think a really good baseline for “pretty” among young women are contestants on Survivor. Every season they manage to pick plenty of very good looking women who don’t seem “pretend” in that celebrity way.
And in that comparison, these girls just wouldn’t rate.
Well, there’s a statue of Strom Thurmond outside the state capitol building in Columbia, South Carolina that I’m sure there are excellent pictures of already - but it was much more fun to take our own while we pissed on it.
Haha, now see, I bet what they didn’t show us was the next picture in that series showing the two girls pissing on the Bentley. That sure would make it an open-and-shut case, wouldn’t it? 
The brunette looks pretty good in her myspace page. I’d link to it, but I’m not sure if that’s within the rules.
I’d still like to message her saying that she’s ugly, has a huge mole, and, overall, is a disgrace to humanity, but I deleted my myspace account just last night. Alas!
Investigating even more deeply (I’m desperately procrastinating getting any real work done), here’s a link that includes both the girl’s myspace page and Southwest’s video-response. The girl in the Southwest response? Definitely cute; much, much cuter than either of those other two b***hes. And bonus(!): she actually has a job, unlike those two certainly will in a few years.
No, I “obviously” was originally addressing Wee Bairn and answering a direct question. It was “obvious” since I quoted him. I don’t care, nor do I think, that you’re taking the girls’ side in this, since your first post made your position clear.
To the airline, yes. At the beginning of every flight when the dinkuses with the drinkuses are walking around the plane being in the way and generally annoying with their constant opening and closing of the overhead bins, I say to them ‘Please do not wake me up during the flight.’
I’ve been on exactly ONE flight where they listened to this. MCO to PIT on a Sunday morning when hung over as hell. I got the exit row next to the door, was out before takeoff, and didn’t wake up until we landed.
Is that before or after they drop weight a bunch of weight from lack of food?
You mean you wrote a letter to the airline after the fact, yes?
I’m not sure what to tell you, but if you’ve found this trend to be on the same airline, I’d switch. I rarely sleep when flying, and during my numerous redeyes, I’ve never seen a flight attendant wake someone up for anything other than a safety issue. That’s just common courtesy, and if you’re seeing a pattern, it may very well be a policy of that airline to wake people up and ask if they’d like service. If it is, time to switch.
There’s a thread somewhere here on the Pit where Una Persson describes being stuck on the runway for some ungodly time (9 hours? 11?) and I believe being denied access to the restrooms. I refuse to search for it, since I swore I would never read it again.
Anyway, atomicbadgerrace, in that particular situation, you have to put up a fight. They can’t arrest for asking to use the restroom. But when they say “No”, and your choices get down to pissing your pants or ignoring them and getting up anyway, what do you do? Don’t you dare say “Hold it in” - the bladder does not have infinite capacity, and there are plenty of people who can’t hold it for more than a few minutes past the point of no return. What do you do then?
Ideally, demand to speak to the Captain. He calls the shots onboard, and will provide the final answer on behalf of the airline. I’m sure we can all agree that the crew up front are usually more level headed than the crew in back. It may be a simple case of the flight attendant believing that takeoff is imminent. It may be that the flight attendant is just jacked up and has no idea what’s going on. Either way, best to seek answers from the front.
Failing that, I’d advise that I’m about to piss myself, and I will require relocation onboard once I’m done. Should THAT not work, I’d do it. And talk to an attorney afterwards.
Either way, ignoring them and going anyway isn’t a good idea. While your intentions may have been harmless, I wish you the best in convincing the airline, the FAA, and law enforcement of that once you get back to the gate. Not to mention any federal air marshals onboard who may mistake your beeline for the restroom to be a run for the cockpit.
Piss on the flight attendant.
I’ve flown both American and Southwest and most of the time right after takeoff I close my eyes and, if not actually go to sleep, zone out. These are usually afternoon flights, and I can’t remember a flight attendant ever “waking” me to ask if I want anything. On the few times I’ve had an aisle seat, they even manage to serve the other passengers in my row without disturbing me.
Yeah. I write to the airlines. It’s been multiple airlines. The only one that it didn’t happen on was with Southwest. They let me sleep.
The typical answer is ‘We do not want anyone to be skipped on the beverage service.’ or thereabouts.
You’ve obviously never been in this position, because you’d be familiar with the response ‘I told you to sit down and shut up and if you say another word I will have you arrested.’
You might also, if this ever happens to you, get to hear the wonderful ‘You don’t have any rights inside this airplane.’
I’m sure they’d have heard me say very loudly ‘Look, I am about to piss in my pants. I need to use the restroom right now.’ and probably manage to avoid shooting me. Arresting me? Well, at least then I have rights again. Although if we are still on the ground I might try and call my attorney beforehand so I can advise him that I’m about to be arrested for refusing to piss myself on an airplane.
I’m at a loss for any airline defending this practice, then. Perhaps if enough people are outraged by the practice and speak up about it, the policy will change.
No, but I’m on the other end. I work for a major US-based carrier, and I can say with certainty that if this happened on one of our flights, we would in no way support the actions of the flight attendant.
Simple fact is, you do have rights, but they are few. You are legally entitled to certain things, and are legally prohibited from certain activities. For those not categorized, staff is expected to make a rational decision given circumstances. If there’s a pattern of poor decisions being made, that member of the crew won’t be employed for long. At least, that’s how we play it.
Think again. Nothing you say in the process will matter to a FAM who sees a passenger making way towards the front of the cabin while a flight attendant shouts “sir, sit down, you can’t go there.”
Please do. Like I said, any airline that either condones these practices or employs staff that can’t make these decisions properly either better have a damn good backing from the FAA, or be prepared to be sued long and hard.
You work for an industry that is fighting against a law requiring the use of a restroom if passengers are stuck in their seats on the runway for more than three hours. You actually defended their fight against that law, saying that the airlines should handle this themselves. The fact is that when they do (as they do now) things really aren’t working.
I’ll take my chances then, because to me, being treated worse than a dog is just not acceptable. Prisoners are treated better than paying customers on airplanes. Maybe it takes someone being shot for the great crime of having to use a toilet to wake people the fuck up to the fact that this has gone way too far. These people, these flight attendants, are basically like the guards in the Stanford prison experiment.
Maybe you, oh great trainer of flight attendants, should start teaching them how to exercise some human decency rather than being sadistic little prison wardens.
I don’t support refusing passengers a restroom if they’re stuck on a runway. At the same time, I don’t support federal legislation of such. The airlines should be left to make their own rules, and if they suck at doing it, passengers should choose airlines that have better rules. Maybe my view comes from the fact that where I work, we already do it right (policy-wise).
People have already been subdued by FAMs (I believe at least one person was shot and killed erroneously, but I’ll have to look it up). Nothing’s changed. The law has always sided with the air marshals.
I don’t train flight attendants. We do teach ours how to exercise human decency and make values-based decisions. We don’t condone them being sadistic, and it perturbs me that you’re making a blanket statement about the entire industry based on one or two poor experiences with one or two carriers.
I have flown on numerous airlines around the world and never once been woken up by a flight attendant for beverage service or anything. I have been woken to put my seat up for landing, but that’s a safety matter and perfectly understandable.
I also have used the washroom when the plane was on the runway. I just stood up, and when the flight attendant told me to sit down I said, politely (but firmly), that I couldn’t hold it any more and I was going to use the washroom. There were no hyperbolic threats or anything. The attendant was sitting right by the washroom door and watched me go back to my seat.
I gotta wonder if you are presenting some attitude or something that is getting you poor treatment and comments like “I told you to sit down and shut up and if you say another word I will have you arrested”, catsix. I know people complain about airline service, but I’ve never heard anyone else complain about that.
Of course, I could be being treated special because of my extreme uber hot sexiness, who knows?