I am not a fundamentalist Scottish Nationalist. I am English and will remain so with the typical disdain for patriotism often shown by the English. I do support Home Rule for Scotland, and although quite worried about the ramifications of independence do believe tat if the Scots vote for independence, then it should follow. I also believe that the Unionist parties and interests are acting perversely in a manner that will drive Scotland out of the Union, rather than seeking a federal structure with home rule.
I take full civic responsibility for the British Government, as for any citizen and voter, even whilst disagreeing with much of its foreign policy and some of its domestic politics.
My sole act of flag waving nationalism is the Cornish flag I fly in my garden, celebrating my English West Country roots.
You have made some seriously incorrect assumptions. I cannot say any more.
I would say that “Internment Camp” was equal to Guantanamo or the gulags (or in UK and US histories, the interment of Japanese American citizens or the concentration of Boers.)
I do not need to defend atrocities, British or otherwise. Many states have made horrific errors.
“Action Aid has published a database of FTSE 100 company use of subsidiaries in tax havens, which highlights the large-scale use of this tactic. The tax evasion activities of Amazon and Vodafone have received media coverage, but the Luxembourg Files and** Action Aid data show that many other well-known household names are engaged in this practice: Eon, GlaxoSmithKline, Dyson, Burberry, Aviva, Prudential, HSBC, McGraw Hill and surprisingly, the Guardian Media Group.”**
Doesn’t seem to rise to the level of ‘Gestapo tactics’ though. However, reading through the article it doesn’t seem to be very professionally written or well sourced, so it has that in common. I’m not sure how long this thread will last…if the Mods are paying attention they are sure to see that you are basically putting this thread out as some sort of gotcha (in your own mind at least) to justify your failing position in the other thread on the horrible US ‘Blacksites’ and ‘Gestapo tactics’ and such.
The situations in the 2 OPs you started aren’t comparable.
The problems at Yarl’s Wood Detention Center have been investigated and verified by multiple sources (albeit some problems are ongoing). The Home Office isn’t issuing outright denials, and it appears that the issues continue to be addressed. There are numerous cites available with even a preliminary google search; most UK media has reported on it.
The problems at Homan Square in Chicago are still only allegations, not yet investigated or proven. The Chicago Police Department has denied the allegations, and it is not clear yet if the story will develop further than we’ve seen this week. It’s really premature to have an informed opinion about it, much less “debate” whatever it is you intended with your question.
Besides that, I still don’t see how either OP is framed as a debate. Are you attempting a social experiment to see how people respond to poorly developed debate questions?
Further details please of amounts in overseas accounts and reasons why. I could find no mention of off shore accounts in the accounts of the Scott Trust.
Given the tax structure of a charity, I can see little advantage in holding money offshore. The Scott Trust pays little tax in the same way that every other charity does- the special status of charities, not because of the use of offshore banks.
You are correct, the article does allege those things, and cite those things.
Still not seeing a debate here, nor anything new or shocking. The position of the Government, and of the majority of people in the UK, remains that detention camps for illegal immigrants are good, mistreatment of those detained is bad.
The Scott Trust does not exist and has not existed since 2008, when it was wound up and replaced with The Scott Trust Limited, a private limited company. Even when the Scott Trust did exist, it was not a charitable trust.
**UK Border Force runs “Interment Sites” for Asylum Seekers?
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So the debate is that these allegations are worse than the USer Detention Blacksite Scandal, seeing that UKers are burying the Asylum Seekers? Or is it not as bad, since UKers allow them immediate access to lawyers before burying them? Of course, if they’re buried alive it’s arguably worse.
I hope these vital points can be fleshed out without undue regard for patriotic sensibilities.
I’m going to start flying this, though. No idea how many other counties or regions have flags, but the Rose emblems of Yorkshire and Lancashire are pretty famous as well.
It’s not that different to the individual States in the US having flags, especially for places like Cornwall or Yorkshire with a strong regional identity. I’d be slightly more surprised if, say, Rutland has a flag though.
It’s surprising how new they all are. Quite possibly the independence/devolution campaigns have prompted a stronger sense of regional identity across the UK.
