You might find the graphic in this post on Arrse of interest. (Note: the link itself is SFW but many parts of Arrse contain salty language or NSFW posts.)
That graphic is from the Financial Times, specifically from this article
(may require registration, but it’s not behind the actual paywall)
if anyone prefers a better source than Arrse (the preferred online forum for people who like to slightly overstate how much they’ve been involved with the British armed forces).
The raw graphic doesn’t really say much about an election that works on FPTP principles, as opposed to the first-preference transferable votes in the election that it records.
The fight back continues. I recommend spending 3 minutes with this woman as she hands Sky News it’s arse on a platter:
Thanks for the FT link. Actually, FPTP is the same as using first-preference.
Edit: that article appears to be thoroughly paywalled.
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The fight back continues. I recommend spending 3 minutes with this woman as she hands Sky News it’s arse on a platter:
[/QUOTE]I listened to the first minute of that and it was waffle on both sides.
Not so. You can’t assume that people voting under a FPTP system will give their vote to the candidate/party who won their first preference vote in a poll conducted under the STV system.
Under FPTP, if my genuine first preference is for a minority party which has no prospect of winning the one seat available, I may choose not to express that preference and instead vote for the candidate that I judge to have the best chance of beating the one I definitely don’t want to win. Under STV, I’m not forced to make that choice.
Consequently, the first-preference votes cast for the parties competing in an STV election don’t map 1-to-1 onto the first preference votes cast for the same parties competing in an FPTP election.
As, I suspect, we’ll see in Scotland and Northern Ireland in a month’s time.
I can see it, and I just have a non-paying registered account with them. 
I agree, but if you just use the first preference from the STV, then you get the same result as FPTP.
And here’s Kezia Dugdale putting her foot firmly in it.
The FT can be weird. Free registration gets you (I think) 7 articles a month, but it sometimes seems to lose count.
On the manifesto, Torsten Bell of the resolution foundation makes a really good point on Twitter here. Currently, planned Tory benefit cuts are going to hit the poorest 50% really hard. But for all the spending plans in the manifesto, the best that Labour can promise is that they’ll review these. They are planning minimum wage increase, but people already on £10/hour are going to be hit by in-work benefit cuts and it doesn’t seem to be on the radar in a big way.
TIP: A looong time ago I downloaded a ‘cookie manager’. When I run out of monthly allowance I open the cookie manager and clear all cookies from the site now blocking. BOOM - problem solved.
See, this seems to me like the kind of grown-up politics we need more of. Too often we get one of the following:
“We’ll give you the services, and get those rich bastards to pay for it.”
“We’ll keep your taxes low, and it’s those scrounging bastards who’ll lose their services.”
Actually coming out and saying instead that: “If we want the services, we’ll all have to pay for them” is evidently bad electoral politics but it’s also a step towards dealing with uncomfortable reality.
Heh. I tried again and it went straight in this time
I did! If anyone who knew anything about Scotland had produced that map, their first response would have been, “well that clearly doesn’t work.”
I’m not sure why you think it means anything at all since you know about Scottish politics. You really think Na h-Eileanan an Iar isn’t going to vote SNP this time? Or that Orkney & Shetland isn’t a straight fight between LibDem and SNP?
Oh, I just realised that the Tory candidate for Moray (standing against Angus Robertson) is Douglas Ross!
For those who don’t know, he’s currently a councillor and an MSP and a football Assistant Referee! His claim to fame is missing a key vote where the SNP would have been defeated, due to being off at referee training in Switzerland.
He gets paid £40k for his refereeing duties and has missed votes and commitee meetings due to clashes: most recently last year for the Sporting Lisbon and Real Madrid match.
I’m willing to read and listen to other people’s opinions. Aren’t you?
I not only read and listened to it, I actually went a step further and investigated it. Aren’t you willing to make the extra effort?
If I deem it worthwhile. If I find it possible. As I said, that link was blocked.
Erm…I have only referred to the link that you posted.
Exactly. It comes from a FT article which was blocked for me and which I am still digesting - the comments are also interesting. I’ve saved it to a PDF in case it gets blocked again.
You may be interested in Ruth Davidson’s interview on Radio 5 Live: