A friend and I were having a discussion about the changing nature of Las Vegas. Clearly it is going from family friendly to adult oriented. Hell, even Cirque du Soleil is opening a sexual adults only show at the New York, New York hotel. Then this subject came up…
Everyone knows that prostitution is legal OUTSIDE of Vegas (well, Clark County more specifically), and clearly strip bars are legal IN Vegas. But is there such a thing as a live sex show in or outside Vegas?
Someone said they thought they had heard of one, but I’m calling that an urban legend at best. I’m talking about a man and woman having sex on a stage with an audience-type of show. Can anyone confirm or deny if such a thing exists in Las Vegas or outside it’s boundaries? Would such a show even be legal?
Well, Vegas is a big place; it would be difficult to deny that such a thing happens occasionally, somewhere, perhaps secretly in or around the city. Proving a negative is, um, hard.
And if such a thing does exist, I have no idea abou tits legality.
"But is there such a thing as a live sex show in or outside Vegas? "
Sure, SF, Calif used to have some, I don’t know, maybe they do today. Why do You think it’s prostitution? Some of the people doing the shows are married.
I think I knew something like that used to happen down in the Tenderloin area of San Fran, but I thought that was a while ago - i.e. like the 70s. I guess I thought it might technically be prostitution because someone is being paid to have sex.
WITHOUT turning this into a whole prostitution debate, it is my understanding that if I go to an undercover vice cop posing as a prostitute and offer her money in exchange for having sex on a stage with a guy (who may or may not be paid himself) that I would still be busted for soliciting.
Now if prostitution is legal outside Clark County (or whatever the rule is where they have the whorehouses) then I would think I could arrange for a hooker to have sex with a guy, and set it up as entertainment in and of itself for others to watch if that was what they were into. My question was whether anything like that actually officially exists. I understand that somewhere in Las Vegas it is going on clandestinely and it must happen all the time or porno movies couldn’t get made. The question I had was whether such things can be advertised OPENLY in or around Vegas. If they are illegal, I’d be curious to find out why…
Are there shows in Vegas featuring topless girls? Yes, but not many. They are not considered anything very special, are openly advertised everywhere along with all the other shows, and are attended by all sorts of people, including married couples.
Are there shows featuring totally nude dancing girls? No, not shows, but there are lap dancing clubs where you can watch totally naked women all night if you want to. There’s no alcohol and you will receive all the usual ‘lap dancing’ enticements to do more than just watch the stage. The clientele is almost exclusively male.
Are there shows or clubs in Vegas featuring live sex acts? Certainly none that are advertised or openly available to the passing public or that are easily discoverable. Some of the lap dancing clubs may feature girl-girl acts where you will see cunnilingus performed as part of the ‘come on’ for hiring private dances, but that’s only if the vice squad have been paid off or ‘looked after’ for that particular evening.
Incidentally, there is one and only one surefire source of information about any of this kind of ‘entertainment’. It’s no use looking in the printed guides or even trawling the web. You just need to talk to taxi drivers. Taxi drivers are wonderfully well-informed. If it’s available, they will know where, and will take you there. This applies to every taxi driver in Vegas. And they don’t care who you are or what you’re looking for… they just want the fare and their commission/tip from the clubs and other venues they take people to. They routinely drive around certain ‘clubs’ at the start of each evening’s shift to negotiate their ‘commission’ for delivering passengers there.
I disagree with the OP’s premise that Vegas is going away from family friendly towards adult orientated (I’m a Brit and we say ‘orientated’). Vegas has always offered a broad mix of shows, catering for all tastes. However, money talks, and there is far more money to be made running a show that the whole family can see than one which just attracts men wanting to see some flesh.
I only know about this because I’ve just recently come back from Vegas and I know a lot of people who work in the entertainment industry there.
Incidentally, the best shows to see are:
Anything by Cirque du Soleil. Kill for tickets if you have to.
Penn & Teller.
Mac King.
Ronn Lucas.
The worst:
1-10. Siegfried & Roy.
11. Showgirls of Magic.
I think if anything, Vegas is trying to become MORE family oriented! Which I oppose, but I don’t live there. I think Vegas would be very, very far down on my list of a place to take kids, but you see families there more and more.
As for the sex shows. I was chatting with a very friendly lady in the bar in the Mandalay bay one morning at about 8AM. She got a call on her cell phone, and I couldn’t help over hearing the conversation.
She was planning a bachelorette party for one of her friends, and it was to take place at a private “club” and open sex was supposed to be one of the features of this “club”.
Sounded more like a swingers club than a sex show, but she said unattached males were welcome for a $35 cover charge…something most swingers clubs don’t allow AFAIK.
She gave me the name and address of the club, and her “name” as a reference to the doorman so he would know who had referred me.
I didn’t go, so all of this is second hand conjecture. I still have the name and address of the club, I think, if anybody wants to check it out
I realize that this is only tangentally related to your question, but it bears mentioning that illegal prostitution is openly - even aggressively - advertised in Las Vegas. The cabbie that took me from the airport to the hotel actually got kickbacks from the prostitutes who put ads in the back of his cab. “The Strip” is practically paved with the often-graphic advertising flyers.
I guess I’m just suggesting that “advertised openly” doesn’t necessarily correspond with “legal.”
Those flyers are just “dancers” who come to your room and “dance”.
Which is another excellent reason not to take the kiddies to Vegas. Walk down the strip and all you see are those flyers littering the strip, and people trying to hand them to you.
Well- just what does our OP mean by a “live sex show”? I have seen girl-on-girl action (as ianzin pointed out) right here in SF CA. As to male-female-hardcore, these are very rare anywhere.
Duke of Rat- well, yes, “just dancers”. An extremely close, nasty, intimate “dance”, that gets very very close to intercourse without crossing that line. At least the couple times I tried those ads. “Sexual”? Certainly. “Sex”?- depends on what “is” is.
Live sex show means just what it says, the sex act performed in front of an audience. Acts may include boy/girl sex with full penetration, solo girl with dildo, girls shooting ping-pong balls, etc. There are a few in Amsterdam, and they’re pretty common in Thailand.
As for America, I’ve heard of events put on by porn companies, where fans can meet the stars. This includes live performances by the stars. I don’t know if there are any theatres with regular nightly performances, but it presumably is legal.
I saw BMG and Cirque’s ‘O’ 2 years ago around new years 2000/2001. The best shows. ‘O’ was a much better production but BMG was more fun, IMHO of course.
I’m so excited. I’m going to see BMG in NYC in 2 weeks and then 2 days later they are coming HERE to Houston. I can’t wait.
Incidentally, I can vouch for the taxi driver thing in Vegas. They know.
Live sex shows with an audience exist in virtually every major metro area in the U.S. in some form or another. They are not legal for the most part so this is all that I will say about it. Do not ask me for more information either here or via email.
