unfortunate events we seem unable to eliminate

You still aren’t getting it.

Your dog runs away dude to some fireworks, without breed specific hate you typically have 5 days to dig through every shelter or hope that they finally get the microchip reader to work, if it is one of these “evil pit bulls” they don’t adopt out the dog, after 48 hours it is destroyed. They don’t try to adopt it out, because of people like you.

Even if it isn’t one of these “pit bulls” misidentification is the rule and not the exception.

And when someone on a fixed income or low income gets kicked out of their apartment the myth that “pit bulls” are somehow more dangerous often means that they can’t find housing and have to give up their pet to a shelter…which often just destroys without trying to re-home them due to this irrational breed bias.

It doesn’t matter how friendly the dog is or even if it is a “pit bull” they are just destroyed due to irrational non-empirical hysterics.

I’ll let you have the last say because yes looking over the other thread this is going to be like arguing with birthers and flat earthers.

But note that this is the general expert consensus too.

The only person trying to force anything on anybody is you and the OP, who want to destroy dogs purely based on appearance.

No, go right ahead, carry on with derailing the thread. (Not that it was ever on the rails to begin with.)

Lucky he didn’t mention declawing cats in the OP.

I’ll stop…seeing as I can’t really argue with trying to cure cancer or eliminate domestic violence.

Drippy ice cream cones!

Hillary Clinton running for President should be on the list.

We could eliminate all these things. All it takes is an Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator.

Traffic! - Nobody drives in New York, because there’s too many cars there!

And outside of New York, not a single big city has done any better, given that in a lot of them “nobody driving” / using mass transit is affirmatively not an option.

I think choking on some random chunk of food or inhaling a guitar pick that I placed between my lips will probably be my end.

Kidney stones.

You… you… you Republican! :mad:

Maybe if crucible wasn’t an attention-seeking dog-hater.

Still, your position is ambiguous. Note that I am not even implying that you might be among the likes of my (late) uncle or my next door neighbor, who get a dog and put it on a chain in the back yard, apparently to serve as a burglar alarm.

They take food out to it and sometimes move it to another part of the yard, but that is basically all the interaction they have with it. The dog whines, and barks at the neighbors (like me) and barks at butterflies, and its usefulness as intended is lost. It is a thing to own, like an ATV or a picnic table.

Really, fuck those assholes sideways with an ocotillo. If you want to have an animal, have some sort of actual pet that you get involved with, not a thing to have because reasons. It enrages me to the point that someday I may forget to leave the Louisville Slugger at home.

Really, a lot of people suck much worse than a whole lot of dogs. Except chows. Fuck those evil, unpredictable bastards.

Yes, that is truly dreadful.

Seriously, just click on the rolleyes. That is some rabid willful ignorance on display by the OP of this thread.

Actually, everything I have said about pit bulls has been true. Every unbiased study ever performed shows pit bulls are the ‘breed’ most likely to kill and maim.

Are there worse societal problems? Yes. Guns of all kinds should be drastically restricted. Over time, literally millions of lives will not be shortened. Many more millions will not be maimed. No argument for allowing anyone to have a gun justifies the millions of deaths caused by the misuse of guns. Misuse caused, in part, by unnecessary ease of obtaining them.

I had rather hoped people would add more mundane things to the list, as some did. Things like being unable to keep squirrels from chewing through screenwire to get at birdseed

Those of you who love what we call pit bulls should be the first to call for removing all the badly trained, stray and demonstrated to be dangerous dogs of that type from the world. They were bred to be vicious killers in the dog pit. To save them, you have to choose only the best behaved of their ilk to survive and, without emotion, destroy the rest. No different that my step father’s breeding of fox hounds not to chase either rabbits or chickens by taking those with those tendencies as a young dog over the hill behind the barn. Still, since they were so intent on fox, when I was tasked with carrying a dead fox home in my hunting jacket to use it for a drag track, they broke down the fence of their run and nearly caught me before I could escape into the haymow. Slept there and washed in tomato juice while he reinforced the run.

I think many breeds of dogs are wonderful companions and useful workers. The pit bull ‘breed’ was bred to be everything dogs should not be. Most, today, are pretty docile, sure, but the switch in their brains sometimes clicks and they, for example, attack a kid getting off a bus and bite them 50 times, nearly to death (recent in NC)

yes, there are things we can effect, and things we can’t.

on a per mile basis, transportation in general is probably thousands of percent safer today than, say, 1925, mostly because of engineering of all sorts.

and, of course, some folks have to stay sober in order to rush their relatives and friends to the emergency room when they O.D. Way more opioid deaths per year now than transportation deaths.

When all is said and done, though, climate change will probably kill billions of people, esp. if some drastic change is triggered, like the ocean currents breaking down. Could happen almost any time.

Double on this …

I used to have this evil dream, imagine a swarm of about 10 cute poodles, with ribbons and fluffy haircuts trained to attack … but you could just as easily have an attack swarm of chihuahuias…
And pitties used to be called ‘nanny dogs’ prior to WW1, and were recommended over German Shepherds if you had kids. German shepherds can be over territorial and get bitey around ‘prey sized’ critters like smaller dogs, cats and small children. Rotties, dobies and pitties are wonderful dogs when trained and treated well. You couldn’t get me to own one of hte hyper tiny yappy dogs, larger dogs are frequently very mellow [as adults, all puppies go through the bouncy yappy phase until properly trained.]

Reading through the list in the OP, I don’t see one item that we can’t change for the better. It takes will and resources, but there are solutions to every one of those problems, and with enough effort we can make progress. That doesn’t mean that problems can be eliminated entirely, but they can certainly be reduced or contained.

That’s why I like to share the drunk driving statistics. So many people think of it as an unsolvable problem, but it’s actually one of the greatest social engineering successes.

Another one: From 1983 - 2012, infant deaths from Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) were reduced 71% because of the back sleeping campaign.

Social engineering is more complex than passing laws, but it’s the best way to make real, positive change.