United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads}

The US had a wheel.

Maybe Jesus took it?

Edit: deleted, hijack, I forgot which thread I was in. Apologies.

Second group of Marines ordered to the Mideast, for a total of over 4,000.

The USS Boxer group of three ships, carrying thousands of Marines from the 11the Marine Expeditionary Unit, has left California and will take about three weeks to reach the gulf, according two U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

That’s in addition to the USS Tripoli group, with more than 2,000 Marines, expected to arrive soon from Japan.

https://www.npr.org/2026/03/20/nx-s1-5754550/israel-strikes-tehran-iran-attacks-gulf

We don’t know who the dog is here, and who’s the tail. Maybe it was all Bibi’s plan; or maybe Trump wanted a war and Israel decided not to check the gift horse in the mouth. It’s not as if Bibi could say no to Trump, after all.

We may get an answer some day, or it could be one of those things historians will be arguing about 200 hundred years from now. I don’t know.

Trump’s orders are his own responsibility, whether or not he was “duped” by Netanyahu. They’re both enemies of humanity at this point.

You’re right. I had a momentary lapse of judgment, forgetting the current administration here in the United States doesn’t think beyond their own front nose.

No doubt there.

It’s not as if none of us can’t see this situation from Israel’s point of view. But you might want to recall what happened to the guys who’d had Leeroy Jenkins on their team.

Part II of an interview with a former SOCOM and CENTCOM commander regarding clearing the Strait and/or seizing the enriched uranium. Sobering and that’s with him dancing around direct criticisms.

Are you kidding? Netanyahu may be a corrupt warmongering hawk, but he’s not stupid. When it comes to intelligence, Trump isn’t even a dog’s tail – more like a horse’s ass. Trump’s denial that Netanyahu influenced him – “no, I told him what to do” is further proof, in the spirit of “every denial is an admission”, and also, since Trump always lies, the truth can usually be discerned by performing a logical inversion of everything he says.

Israel’s extraordinary level of aggression in this conflict also seems like good evidence that they’re the ones leading this war and Trump was just duped into it.

Iran has targeted the US-UK military base on Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean with two intermediate range ballistic missiles. The base is 2500 miles from Iran. Neither missile reached its target. One missile may have been destroyed by a US Navy surface-to-air missile, while the other appears to have failed in flight.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2026/03/21/iran-war-latest-news-trump-israel-strait-of-hormuz-oil/

Holy crud! I spent two liberty days there while in the Navy and after my retirement, I worked there for about half a year.

It wouldn’t take much to render the place useless. The airfield and the mothballed ships would be the targets.

How long till an Iranian drone makes it the US? I know they can’t reach the US from there, but they are easy to transport and launch from nearly anything. I fear that happens and it devolves from there.

I’ve wondered this too. It doesn’t seem hard to have a remote-controlled big ship that could releases hundreds of drones and hit San Francisco or New York City or something. The difficulty would be having such an Iranian ship get out of Iranian waters un-flagged by US forces.

And remember, it wouldn’t be an act of terrorism. It would be a part of war that the US started. This makes me so angry and sad. Iran now has an excuse to do this.

No. Iran now has a reason to do so.

Scott Perry has a way to deal with the cost of this war.

Then he dropped this, let’s call it, interesting tidbit.

If he really believes these, I’ve a wall to sell him.

The US’s president, though, is not concerned about the cost.

Tippy top? Is that in The Art of the Deal War?

Iran hits US jet; US president says nobody’s shooting at US forces.

But evidently Iran still has enough firepower to threaten the rest of the world.

How about last week?

Iran reportedly believes it’s winning this war:

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-war-negotiations-demands-85555522?st=SrZthR&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

If it lasts even one minute longer than four weeks, then they’ve definitely won the war no matter how much longer it lasts.

It’s simple: you win a war by hitting the enemy where they’re vulnerable. Israel’s vulnerability is its civilians, which is why Iran has been shooting cluster munitions at its cities, all day, every day. America’s vulnerability is money, which is why Iran has closed Hormuz.

Iran’s vulnerability, in turn, is its oil and gas, but Trump won’t let us attack those, so we’re going to lose. And we’ll know whose fault it’ll be.

Lesson for the future: next time America offers to help out with a war, say no.

You win a war by achieving your goals. We never defined our goals, so we can’t possibly win. You can’t reach your destination when you don’t have one.