United States and Israel are bombing Iran {for current/ongoing events, past/future have specific threads}

And now we’re back to him painting himself into a corner in the Oval Office.

‘Who new germomatree were this hard?’ ~ MAGA

Huh? What does that have to do with this thread?

trump lies, Iran lies. Who is the bigger liar?

Sounds like the “ceasefire” might be postponed a couple of weeks. I’m sure an end to this war is coming soon!

https://www.npr.org/2026/06/09/nx-s1-5851845/trump-confirms-iran-shot-down-helicopter-says-u-s-must-respond

Trump. Trump is the bigger liar. That’s a very easy question.

Really. That one’s a softball.

trump, hands down. Every time he opens his mouth, every time he posts something. He lies by default, he lies by deed and by omission. I am still waiting for a corageous journalist to ask him what time it is to see what time he pulls out of his ass then. Sure not the real time.
Yes, Iran lies too. But they are not in the same league. Not even close.

Iran lies fall in the upper bound of normal operational parameters for nation-states, Trumps… are bigger by several orders of magnitude.

Moderating:

OK, I let this digression go far enough.

How much Trump or Iran lies doesn’t really belong in this thread. No more on it.

Have you ever heard this one? “Quitting smoking is easy; I do it every night.” That’s were we are now with the cease fires.

Glad to see Trump say the war is finally over.
Or no - wait.

Trump is back on his “we should invade Kharg island” obsession…

Probably will TACO it, but you never know :frowning:

Let’s let Trump make strategic decisions regarding an American war in the Middle East! What could go wrong?

Now we have Trump bragging that The US will take “total control” of Iranian oil production I guess he did not technically use the exact word “steal” but close enough in my opinion.

Iran war: Trump vows to seize Iranian oil facilities

And now this morning’s plan to attack Iran has been cancelled.

good news! Apparently we are close to a resolution!

He lasted less than three hours!

Why, oh why, do I suspect that discussions and final points have not, in fact, been approved by all parties?

By god! You’re a genius!

I realize that this story could be from anytime these past few months, but this is from this afternoon.

Trump announced that we’re really really pinky swear about to cut a deal, and Netanyahu says “Up yours, Trump, I’m attacking Beirut some more.”

Netanyahu also: “Oh, yeah, happy birthday! BFF!”

Let’s take it down to the simple basics. Trump’s agreement with Iran is not an agreement, it’s a memorandum of understanding (MOU), reportedly stating that the parties will talk about making an agreement, for infinitely extendable 60-day limits. That is, other than the billions to which the Trump administration has agreed to give the implacably anti-American jihadist regime, the MOU is a nothing that Neville Trump is peddling as peace in our time.

But to the extent the MOU is something, it is something very bad because if it were something good, we’d be reading it, not being spun about it.