UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot in Manhattan [breaking news: 2024-12-04]

Not immediately, but it’s already led to greater progress in healthcare self-awareness and possible change in the past 9 days than in the past 9 years.

What changes? All I see is security companies getting a lot more business.

Frankly, I don’t see this at all.

5 posts were merged into an existing topic: United healthcare CEO assassinated, the P&E edition {This is not a gun debate/statistics thread!}

No they didn’t. AIUI, the tip was called in by an employee or customer. You are correct.

But what does that have to do with whether or not an acquaintance called the FBI?

There is some basic violation of logic there but I’m not fluent in Logicisity or Syllogismese so I can’t concisely describe it. But the faulty reasoning is something obvious like:

A was arrested because B made Call X to the authorities

C, D, E and F did not make Call X

Therefore C, D, E, and F could not have made Call Y or Z to the the authorities

bwuhhhhhh???

My point is that if the feds knew his name, they would have released it. Despite Eric Adams’ braggadocious nonsense, there’s no reason to hold onto the name - releasing it, along with his known pseudonyms, would have made it harder for him to hide and easier to track down.

No name released, therefore they didn’t have the name, therefore it’s improbable that anyone who knew him called in a tip.

He wasn’t always like this.

I read somewhere that the police received around 200 credible tips from the public and none of them had the name “Mangione”. Sorry, no cites, I just remember it because it was has been such a point of contention here.

IF the authorities had his name before the arrest I anticipate we will eventually find that out.

At this point I haven’t seen anything to make me think they had his name.

Moderating:

Reminder, this is the breaking news thread.

These would all be better in the companion political thread.

Perhaps the most shocking moment in my time here on the SDMB is now, with so many long-time respected posters having such a flippant (which is the kindest way I could possibly describe it) attitude towards the cold-blooded murder of a human being. If this is any indication of how the rest of society is trending, humanity is surely doomed. We’re apparently not that far removed from throwing virgins into the volcano.

Moderating:

This also belongs in the other thread, not in the breaking news thread.

I’ve just moved the 5 posts i mod-noted to the other thread. Please direct the political discussion to that thread, not this breaking news thread.

…tune in each week as the health insurance executives compete in various contests and challenges to avoid being voted off the island.

Who will be the ultimate Conniver?

Coming this fall to CBS:

Connivor

Someone who is not comfortable with shooting the gaps between what the evidence says probably (or even almost certainly) happened and what the evidence doesn’t rule out with complete metaphysical certainty has no business being an attorney. If you find that laughable or ridiculous, I don’t know what else to tell you.

Anyway, if you’re ever accused of a crime (whether you did it or not) I hope you don’t get a defense attorney who just shrugs and says “Well, I guess you sure do look guilty. Sorry, old chap, you’ll just have to take your lumps lying down. The prosecutor, and the news media, and Chuck at the corner bar all say you definitely did it, so who am I to say otherwise?”

Or, as the Westerosi say, I wish you good fortune in the wars to come.

So press releases from the police, repeated by the news media, establish an open and shut case? Why not just send him to jail for life right away?

Security concerns now being considered by corporate America generally; not restricted to health insurance companies.

If a banking or car-maker CEO gets gunned down next, will there be the same cheering on the SDMB?

This seems the logical next step for corporations that may be targeted.

I saw a report about wanted posters for CEOs popping up in Manhattan. One of them is for Thompson with a red X over his face. The others are for other CEOs.

@Northern_Piper I think the “cheering” for this on the SDMB has been limited to a small number of posters. And it has mostly been happening in the P&E thread as this breaking news thread doesn’t strike me as the best place to do that sort of thing.

Wolfpup was talking about my Liberty Daily-reading husband, not any lawyer.

my self-assigned job is to ridicule said defense attorney when they try to assert their client’s innocence despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary”

That part at least was very clearly about the defense attorney.