Unrelated questions about military procedure and equine anatomy

This seems to be a tall rider, and the photo is looking a little ahead of the horse, but on an average walk, thisis more or less the view of the horse’s head that the rider has.

Hereis one where the horse’s head is up and he is looking at something off to the left - you can see a bit of the eye in this case.

IME, the horse is generally looking where s/he is going, so unless they are walking slowly in an area they know, you pretty much get the view in the first photo. The way they lift their head, and especially the way their ears are placed, indicate the horse’s mood; attentive/curious/playfu (second link)l, listening to the rider/handler, apprehensive/scared/angry… really, those are the big three.

First of all: no offense, Skald, but I hate the “incompetent junior officer” trope. It’s overdone, and while I’m sure it has some basis in reality, I’ve never encountered it myself.

Now, to answer your question: I suppose it depends on the character of your military. If it’s procedure-oriented, which means that it places form and discipline first, than the sergeant is probably screwed (along with the lieutenant, obviously). If it’s more result-oriented, than the sgt. will probably be fine - after all, he completed his mission, and that’s all that counts.

Most militaries exists somewhere between these two poles, and the tension between the competing philosophies could serve as an factor in your story.

Oh, so he’s a pilot. . .

Oh, he’s not a pilot. Don’t think I can help you on this one, then. :smiley:

Tripler
A bit more fantasy than I’m used to.

Well, he did violate the chain of command. Yes, absolutely, the chain of command needed to be violated in this case, but the high brass doesn’t necessarily know that yet. Until the lieutenant is found to have acted improperly, wouldn’t the sergeant be on the hook? I can imagine the lieutenant giving a report that the sergeant was insubordinate, and the sergeant giving a report that that was only because the lieutenant was displaying cowardice in the face of the enemy, and then the superiors would have to determine which to believe.

In that particular military, are talking unicorns competent to testify? What if the convening authority is also a unicorn?

I, similarly, hate the word trope. Every time I read it I have the urge to stab myself in the eye with a jacknife. Also meme. paradigm, and, oddly, loxodont. If I ever see all three of them in the same sentence I’ll be just like Tiresias.

Also, there’s a good number of military personnel in this story. One and only one is a coward. It seems more likely to me that the green lieutenant who just got commissioned last Tuesday is going to break under pressure than the grizzled sergeant who’s served with honor for years.

If I wasn’t clear upthread, these are two different stories, though they do happen to be set in the same universe. The unicorn bit takes place a good twenty years before the battle, and the unicorn doesn’t witness the cowardice. I only mentioned them in the same thread because I had yesterday off for the holiday and was looking over both.

Not that it matters, but the unicorn would be competent to testify if she had witnessed the cowardice, and her testimony would be all anyone in this world would need; it’s inconceivable in this world that a unicorn would lie or be mistaken, as they are basically angels are are known to be so.

I get the feeling you’re mocking me, though. Of course, I’ve mocked myself in this very post, so I won’t complain. :cool:

“Mocking” is such an ugly word. I prefer “kidding.” :wink:

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Sir! We are Tolkienites! We do NOT USE AMERICANISMS!

Is there any particular reason you want this fictional military to closely resemble the 2009 American military?

The question is mostly idle. The sergeant definitely dies in the story; I haven’t decided whether the lieutenant survives. But he definitely lives longer, and the viewpoint character is en-fucking-raged to see him walking around like nothing happened afterwards because his survival is so terribly unjust and arbitary. In my long-term character arc for her, seeing the lieutenant survive is part of the reason she becomes an atheist.

The unrelated equine-anatomy question was the one that was actually influencing the course

Your pardon. I jested.

Doesn’t that last one mean “elephant”?

And it’s rather silly to criticize an author for re-using old tropes-- It’s impossible not to. You might as well criticize an author for using the same old boring 26 letters. What’s important is what you do with them

That battle hardened green beret sergeant is going to have to take a bit of jesting from his mates about his sexual experience…

Heh, or lack thereof. At least he won’t have any problems under DADT.

IANAL and all that, but really, there’s not enough info in the scenario you outlined for any kind of definitive answer, and, as has been pointed out, since you’re in a fantasy universe, whatever works best for your story will be the best answer.

However, in the late 20th/early 21st century U.S. Army, there’s a few variables in play here. As Tripler pointed out above, there’s a couple of articles in the UCMJ that could very easily apply in this situation. IN a perfect world, the Sergeant’s and Private’s testimony, coupled with the civilians, could see the Lieutenant relieved for cause, and court martialed out of the service with a Dishonorable Discharge.

In our really real world, some other factors could come into play, like the W.P.P.A. (West Point Protection Association), and oft-derided yet no less real “clique” that protects West Point grads at almost any cost.

Then there’s a small yet vocal subset of officer who believe (once you strip all pretense of niceties off of it) that all enlisted are lazy, cowardly, lying scum, and would refuse to even consider the testimony of any number of enlisted (no matter how senior or experienced), much less that of civilians, over a brother officer.

On “the plus,” your “Sarge” could be decorated and commended; on the downside, “Sarge” could have anything from a verbal reprimand and the “LT” quietly transferred out to a non-combat unit, to a full blown court martial for mutiny.

It really depends on the officers and senior NCOs at the next level or two “up” the food chain.

That’s better, Isildur.

Unicorns in this univese don’t give a shit about who’s a virgin and who isn’t. However, the wicked generally can’t abide to be in the proximity of a unicorn, because you can’t tell a lie, even to yourself, while near one of them.

That’s why it’s odd!

And over there, and over there…

Loxodont. Sounds like a toothpaste. Or one of those adhesives for dentures.