Update on husband - in need of positive energy

In a post a few weeks ago I talked about my husband and his diagnosis of stage 4 melanoma. I am trying to support him the best I can, however he has now decided to go through with the radical neck lymph node dissection and I am scared. After that he has to have Interferon infusions 5x/week for a month, then 3x/week for a year. I believe that he has basically given up, which saddens me but I understand the feeling. My sister, a breast cancer survivor, says that he may choose to pull away and refuse to talk about any of this. I gave him the names of the specialists at UCSF but he feels that they will just give him the same treatment/prognosis. Does anyone know how nasty Interferon is? Will he be able to work, maybe part-time? What are the side effects most likely to occur?

I am so very sad right now.

Beaming positive thoughts your way, beckwall, and I wish I could do more.

I’m sorry you have to put up with all of this and I wish you the best. If he’s getting a treatment like that I wouldn’t say he’s given up, but I’m not in the room with you. I am sure this is even harder and more depressing for him than it is for you, and you certainly can’t make him talk, but you can try to engage him and you can be there when he does want to talk. From being around someone who dealt with cancer, I remember that sometimes talking just feels completely pointless. You can’t change things by talking about them and maybe he doesn’t want to think about this any more than he has to. It’s hard.

Getting a second opinion is usually a better idea than just getting it over with if possible.

There are new treatment options:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/06/05/melanoma.drugs/index.html

My aunt is suffering from melanoma, and has been given “statistically months, not years” to live. I understand what your family is going through and I wish you the best of luck.

On a lighter/brighter note, I have officially switched from heavy duty coffee drinks to that mango pineapple smoothie thing at McDonald’s. So good…I really hope there’s actual fruit in it. I don’t need the caffeine jitters right now.

Sending good thoughts your way. Would either (or both, but probably separately) consider counseling? It was really helpful to me and to my late husband when he was sick.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. Have you tried looking for support groups either in the area or online? The hospital may be able to help you find one. We’re always here for our fellow Dopers but sometimes you really need the perspective of others who are going through the same thing you are.

beckwall, I was finally motivated enough to resurrect my account in order to share a story. Before we were married my husband (now ex) was told he should get his affairs in order because he would not survive long with stage 4 melanoma. He had a very radical surgery but no other treatment. There were some health impacts due to the lymph node removal but that was 34 years ago and he is still very much alive and kicking.

Take care, hang in there, don’t give up. Sending best thoughts for both of you.

(Also, second the mango smoothie opinion. Had my first one yesterday even though I said I wouldn’t buy one since I could make it at home cheaper. It hit the spot – not going to look up the ingredients/calories even though it HAS to beat the mocha frappe option.)

This is worth emphasizing. Traditionally, advanced melanoma has not been known to respond well to chemotherapy treatments, but there have been a few important breakthroughs in advanced melanoma just recently that give a lot of reason for hope nowadays. Make sure he understands that before he dismisses the idea of seeing one of the specialists out there. Not all doctors have the same view about how aggressive to be in treating cancer, and not all doctors are up to date on the latest treatments, so if I were facing this I would definitely try to see one of the top specialists in melanoma if possible.
Do you think it would help if you went ahead and made the appointment for him? It’s possible that he is feeling so overwhelmed that he doesn’t feel like he can deal with actually carrying out that process, so maybe it would help if you just took it out of his hands.

Sending best wishes and positive thoughts, beckwall

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I’m sorry I cannot provide any addtiional medical information, but I will keep good thoughts for you and your husband.

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=Melanoma

Keep looking for new therapies.

My son loves that and I love the lemonade thing. <3

But really, I am sending you all kinds of good feelings right now. That’s terrible. My dad has melanoma and it’s very frightening as it really doesn’t want to listen to modern medicine.

But keep trying, if you can. I’m sure your husband feels like a lab experiment at the moment. :frowning:

Sending good thoughts your way! And healing thoughts out to your husband.

Send some of those good thoughts his way. As I said last time, statistically people being positive around him helps towards survival. My melanoma was malignant, but hadn’t spread, but I’ve been there and positive attitudes help. I’m sending positive waves for both of you.

CP

I had a modified radical neck dissection in 2009 for a carcinoma of the tongue, as well as tongue resection, with a neck lumpectomy several months later to get a sneaky lymph bit that got by them the first time and tried to take off again. Then I got different chemo drugs than your husband is getting, plus radiation. I am now, knock on wood, in full remission and can expect to stay that way for the rest of my life. Which is a long way of saying I haven’t read your other thread on the subject but radical neck dissection is nowhere near as bad as it sounds. It is indeed the standard of treatment in certain cases – like mine – and no reputable oncologist would have recommended anything different. Chemo is nothing you’d choose to do unless you had to, but it’s also one of those things that many patients and their families think will be much worse than it turns out to be. It’s mostly boring and uncomfortable, with lots of time spent in waiting rooms, lots of utterly routine check-ins with nurses, lots of little bandaids and needle sticks and medical smells. Some side effects really suck, and of course how well you’re able to take it depends on how ill you are overall.

Hang in there. I’m rooting for both of you, for whatever that’s worth. If he has given up, as you believe, he may find out he was premature. Or he may not have given up in the way you think. Please be nice to yourself while the two of you figure this out!

Thanks to all of you who don’t know me but took time to read this and send good thoughts.

Whoever told me to stay positive - believe me, I am the queen of positive when I talk to my husband. I just have to say that, being the bipolar drama queen that I am, it is hard not to go to the dark place. Like yesterday - my husband’s best friend is away on vacation with his family, and his mother died of cancer. Her prognosis was “months” so the friend felt it would be ok to leave and travel across the US. My husband was quite close to this woman, too. He was planning on going to visit her this weekend. I don’t know what that does to someone who also has a malignancy like him, but it seems like it might frighten him (it scares me a lot).

He has a great deal of fatigue. I read about cancer fatigue but anyone here have any suggestions for an energy boost?

Have a wonderful Sunday and a sparkly 4th of July. You are all kind and compassionate beyond belief.

My sister is fine now, getting strength back, etc. That’s important to know before you read the rest. Also, PM me if you want more info. I’m sure my sister would also be happy to talk to you and your husband.

About a year ago my sister was diagnosed with melanoma (stage 3 I think). They did surgery initially to remove the tumor, and she has had a couple of additional plastic surgeries to fix the graft area, etc. (the tumor was on her face, and they took a section about as big as two closed fists from her face; from her arm, they took an artery and skin to graft on her face; and from her leg, skin to graft on her arm when the cadaver skin didn’t take).

Before the surgery, while she was considering treatment, she visited about three or four doctors (oncologists) at UCLA, two at USC, and a third who has his own clinic (we’ll call the last guy the quack). The UCLA and USC docs, all of who are considered pretty tops in melanoma, agreed surgery plus interferon. The quack suggested traditional chemo to shrink the tumor, then surgery and interferon. After doing all her research, she picked a UCLA doc to oversee the interferon, and then found a plastic surgeon to do the surgery.

She did interferon 5x/week for a month and began her 11 month 3x/week interferon, but could only sustain it for three months before she had to quit. I’ll talk about the side effects in a minute, but if you press the doctors on this issue, they will agree that (a) all the studies on interferon look either at the 1 month intensive plus 11 months half dose, or at the 1 month intensive alone; (b) only one study looks at the 11 months half dose interferon as a stand alone; © that study (I think it’s New Zealand) has some flaws (small sample size, for one), but shows that there isn’t any benefit from the additional 11 months. Which is to say that the first month of treatment is what gives you the most protective benefit.

Side effects from interferon that she had: exhaustion, loss of strength, extreme fatigue, diarrhea, nausea, migraines, lack of appetite, metallic taste, depression, hair loss. There may be more I’ve forgotten.

A typical day with interferon treatment: up at 8, have breakfast. Do some chores, leave for the clinic at 10. Treatment takes about 45-60 minutes, unless she needed hydration or asked for Ativan. She found the infusion so unpleasant that they started giving her a bit of ativan to help her rest. So, done around 1130 or 12. If she had some strength, we’d stop by a store on the way home or go out to lunch. If not, home for lunch. She had about an hour and a half after treatment ended before the diarrhea kicked in, and the nausea started before that. Go home, in bed by about 2, sleep till about 7, have dinner and drink water, bed at 8:30 or 9.

The first week or week and a half of treatment, she was doing a bit better than that. But by week 2, she couldn’t walk up a flight of stairs without stopping, completely out of breath, halfway up.

She quit interferon after three months, around Christmas, and now, six months later, she is getting almost all her strength back. Before all this, she was very active and healthy, typically working out an hour or two a day. She says she still can’t run more than a mile, but she’s getting it back.

The docs will tell you that you can work during interferon treatment; I’ll say maybe. I’ll also say that you should get the handicapped placard for the car ASAP, and consider getting a wheelchair after a couple weeks. She was depressed cooped up in the house, but couldn’t manage the walk from the parking lot to a store. So with the wheelchair, I could take her and her daughter to the mall, and she had an afternoon out without completely killing her energy.

ETA: find a cancer support group that welcomes caregivers. It will be a place for you to break down with people who totally get you. My regret was that I only went when I drove her, so I kept my mouth shut so as to be positive for her.

My father has lymphoma and has been having a lot of fatigue. He found that drinking Boost (the nutritional drink that you get in the grocery store) has really helped him a lot. He just has one a day and still needs a good nap in the afternoon, but he’s been able to get his other daily activities pretty much back to normal. Before he started drinking those, he was pretty much stationed in his lounge chair for much of the day.