Upgrading my computer for Starcraft 2

This setting might not be revealed until you change another setting. Usually this is related to overclocking. This setting is usually an option of auto, manual, and a few other things. Manual, would allow you to change the stock multi-plier.

Now you are sure that when running a game or the windows performance assessment tool your CPU multiplier in cpuZ doesn’t go up, right?

Another issue might be that your mobo just doesn’t support OC’ing or messing with CPU details.

That’s strange. Make sure you’re stressing the CPU when you run CPU-z, like run prime95 or something, and see what the final multiplier is. If you’re just running common desktop apps, it may be in power saving mode.

965 is an old chipset, which means it may need a bios update to recognize the wolfdale cored CPU, but if it didn’t work, it probably wouldn’t recognize the chip at all, rather than recognizing it at half multiplier. Something is definitely weird there.

Hmm…to stress the machine, I ran Starcraft in windowed mode and watched CPU-z while it ran. No change. Would restarting CPU-z while running it in windowed mode make any difference?

And I flashed the bios just before installing the CPU. Would it make any difference to flash it again after the CPU is in?

Sorry, but I don’t think it would. You could try resetting the BIOS settings though, in case something got wrongly configured due to the high temps. With the power disconnected, either remove the battery for a few minutes or find the BIOS jumper and connect the pins. Then restart the computer and hopefully it should find the correct settings automatically.

CPU-Z keeps up with the current info and doesn’t need to be restarted. And flashing the bios wouldn’t help - it’s working with the same program either way.

This page indicates that your board supports Pennryn cores with the latest bios, and that means it should support wolfdale (what you have) too.

This page specifically talks about your mb and wolfdale support. I don’t have time to read the entier thread right now, but your answer may be buried in there somewhere. You may need a beta bios that never went official or something. I’ll try to help more tomorrow if you can’t figure it out.

The [H] forums linked above are a good place to ask if you can’t resolve the issue btw. Good nerds there.

Edit: The post above me has some good advice - flashing the bios probably won’t do any good, but triggering the CMOS reset jumper (instructions in the mb manual) will start you at the default settings, which may erase any sort of configuration problems you had before.

Cool–I’ll try resetting the BIOS tomorrow. Thanks again, folks!

This little gadget is great for showing you CPU usage: Gadgets have been discontinued - Microsoft Support

At least it will tell you if you really are stressing the CPU enough to show a higher clock multiplier.

Removed battery. No luck.
Tried Kinthalis’s gadget, and by loading Starcraft and Outlook and Firefox all at the same time, got CPU usage up to 100% and 95%. The multiplier stayed at 6.

I’ll work more on it tomorrow…

Post your issue to the [H] forums I linked above, probably in the intel motherboard section. There’s a lot more nerd knowledge concentrated there.

That’s too bad. I’ve looked around and found someone with the exact same problem, but you’re not going to like this. It appears to be caused by an incompatibility with the motherboard, so it seems the only options are to return the CPU and get an older model with similar clock speed or to get a new motherboard. Sorry.
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=632984

Before you buy a new motherboard or return the CPU, try to check the date of the BIOS (it should be on the first screen), and post the date here.
You might want to try downloading and installing the latest BIOS from Intel instead of Gateway as they seem to havea newer BIOS which might have support for your CPU.
(download the “MQ96510J.86A.1754.EB.EXE” file here: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=17153&ProdId=2412&lang=eng)

P.S. Left Hand of Dorkness, I sent you a PM.

Huh–Thanks, Telperian, but I think it’s not exactly the same. That person has a Intel D945gcpe motherboard, whereas I have a 965. I think this is the list of chips supported by my motherboard, and it looks to me as though my CPU should be supported–although I really have trouble reading this stuff.

I’ll check out that site; thanks, Senorbeef!

Okay, let’s see, I just got the Intel board ID tool to work.
Board model: DG965OT
Board version: AAD75595-200
BIOS Version: MQ96510J.15A.0386.2007.1206.0148

(recording it here partly for my own records :slight_smile: ).

Edit: Cascade, thanks–lemme get to that soon. (Partly live chat is hard for me since I’m taking care of my toddler and posting in the spare moments she gives me).

This page lists compatible processors for my board, I think. The E6700 is listed with the note “Compatibility details differ per processor revision”. Min BIOS version is listed as 1713–I’m not sure how that relates to mine. Lemme restart and see if I can find a more accurate listing for the BIOS.

Oh, hell, actually Cascade, your BIOS does look like it’d be more recent, so I’ll try that. Set to default first, right?

Just tried that new BIOS, and though it looks exactly to me as though it should apply (it’s got the MQ96510J prefix), it gives me the error message

Gah!

Well, yes, but that’s because Intel thought it was a good idea to recycle model numbers for some unfathomable reason. The 2.66 GHz E6700 listed is a Conroe chip that’s some four years old, while the 3.2 GHz E6700 you have is a Wolfdale released earlier this year. Problem is, if there are compatibility issues with an older model CPU, the newer one isn’t going to work.

Oh, for God’s sake.

Someone elsewhere informs me that companies like Gateway often put OEM restrictions on their motherboards to prevent the use of Intel’s BIOS. They claim that it’s done for planned obsolescence. Whatever reason, I hate them.

Yeah, that’s certainly underhanded. I guess you’re supposed to buy a new computer every couple of years instead of upgrading, because how else are they going to be able to afford a corporate jet for everybody on their board of directors?

So Cascade has given me some ideas for ways to get around any OEM BIOS issues–but I’m thinking I need to have a motherboard plan in mind for backup. How does one shop for a motherboard? I’m guessing I need to search for a 775 socket mobo to match what I currently have, but are there other things I need to do, e.g., make sure it matches my case? Is there any chance that a currently-sold new motherboard will perform worse than my current one?

Gigabyte EP-45-UD3L or if you want more frills, the UD3P or UD3R, are your best bet. The L costs around $90, and the others more like $130 (they have extra stuff like raid controllers, dual vide card slots, etc). If I was buying a new core 2 mb, it would be those - they are very well regarded.

In general, P-45 chipset boards are what you want. G965 is old and crappy.

Unless you use some sort of tiny case that requires micro-ATX boards, anything will fit in it.

It definitely won’t perform worse than your current one.

There still may be a solution to your problem - there’s a lot more expertise to be had at the [H] forum or overclock.net. They might be able to save the current board.