Adjacent borders is hardly a requirement for inclusion as a state. Think of Hawaii, the Florida Keys, NY/Long Island, etc.
Or for a non-island example, there’s that piece of Virginia on the other side of the Chesapeake that only borders Maryland.
It’s time for the rivalry to get serious. Winner of the OSU-Michigan game gets the Toledo Strip!
Here’s a stupid some-what related question:
Does the Mackinac Bridge actually connect the two Peninsulas?
If so, how long is it? That’s a pretty big strait there.
The bridge is only about 5 miles long. It’s a short drive.
Holy Toledo!!
Ever notice that geographically Staten Island is really part of NJ even though it is part of NY & NYC.
Not that we are complaining. NYC can keep it.
We just want Ellis Island back. But at least we have joint custody now. We got that around 1998.
Jim
No thanks, I am not even a football fan but I would rather win the game!
Lok
Here is more than you’ll ever want to know about the Michigan border history.
If this was followed accurately, it seems that not only Toledo but Fort Wayne and South Bend would belong to Michigan, and Chicago would belong to Wisconsin.
Another example: there’s a tiny piece of shore on the east bank of Delaware River that belongs to New Castle County, Delaware, even though the total land access to it is through Salem County, New Jersey. And the lower Mississippi is truly bizarre with similar things. There is even a point where the river flows between a piece of Mississippi on the west bank and a piece of Arkansas on the east.
Yeah… I miss winter
One more example of odd boundaries: the site of the first capital of Illinois is on the western side of the Mississippi, unlike the rest of the state. (There’s a rational explanation for this: the river moved, but the state boundary didn’t).
I miss the funny looks Coloradans would give me when I told them I missed winter. They think they get winter on the Front Range. They are so wrong.
Not Fort Wayne. South Bend, yes, however.
The article you cite is in error in one respect: there was no requirement that Ohio’s initial border be agreed to under the provisions of Article IV, Section 3 of the Constitution, since Michigan was not a state at the time that Ohio unilaterally changed it’s northern border. However, if Ohio territory was to be taken away from it, it would have to have been done with the consent of Ohio. Should the issue have been litigated, there would have to have been a determination by the Supreme Court as to what the legal boundary of Ohio was on the North.
It is funny to think that Ohio really, really wanted the Great Black Swamp, so that they could have a port at the mouth of the Maumee River. You can see how Toledo has turned out SOOO much more important than Detroit over the years. :smack:
Also, if I’m not mistaken, Michigan Territory already included the eastern one-third, roughly, of the UP. The taken from the Wisconsin Territory and given to Michigan was the remainder of the UP.
Here’s a page that shows the progression a little more graphically. It doesn’t show every transition. It does show a phase (1834) when Michigan Territory had all of present-day Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, and parts of the Dakotas.
Looking around a bit more, I find a mapped history of Wisconsin Territory (PDF), which does show Michigan Territory having the eastern tip of the UP in 1809, and the boundary conflict with Ohio. Interesting that Indiana Territory, of all things, seems to have been alloted the middle third of the Upper Peninsula (see map).
In any case, I’m still not sure that the UP was ever part of Wisconsin Territory. The above maps imply that Wisconsin Territory was essentially the new name for the remainder of the old, larger Michigan Territory, after Michigan’s current area (confusingly also called “Michigan Territory”, right before statehood) was cut away.
Incidentally, it’s kind of a shame that Jefferson’s idea “Assenisipia” never came to pass. I used to know some Asses from that area, and the name would have fit.
I get that every night at work. “It’s so cold!” “Look at all the snow” :rolleyes: There was way more snowpack in Marquette last winter when I visited than at any resort in Colorado.
Interesting, but not especially odd. Northern Ohio is divided between the Western Reserve in the East and the Firelands in the West. They were given those names when Connecticut surrendered its claims to the land west of Pennsylvania. (The Western Reserve was the land reserved for sale to compensate Connecticut and the Firelands were the acres sold to compensate specific towns on the Connecticut coast that had been burned by the British during the War for Independence.)
Using one (rarely used) measurement, the Mac was the world’s longest suspension bridge for many years.
The standard way to measure suspension bridges are:
Pillars to pillars (span)
Shore to shore
and
Pier to pier (the places where the suspension cables are anchored).
For span, the Mac, at 1,158 meters is not as long as the Golden Gate, 1,281 meters, the Verrazano Narrows, 1,299 meters, The Humber, 1,411 meters, the StoerBaelt, 1,625 meters, or the Akashi Kaikyo, 1,991 meters.
The Mac is 28 feet short of five miles overall, 8,038 meters. I seem to recall that there is a suspension bridge with an overall length that exceeds that of the Mac, but I cannot recall which one it might be. Most of the other “long span” bridges are shorter. (The current span champion, the Akashi Kaiko, is less than half the overall length of the Mac at 3,911 meters (2.4 miles), the Verrazano Narrows bridge is appoximately 1/2 the length of the Mac at 4,176 meters (2.6 miles), and the Golden Gate is pretty short at only 2,737 meters (1.7 miles).
As far as I know, the anchor pier distance on the Mac, 2,626 meters, is still longer than most (perhaps all) of its recent competitors.
And then there is Michigan’s very large Isle Royale, that is closer to Canada and Minnesota (and Wisconsin) than it is any other part of Michigan, and is served by a Minnesota ferry that leaves from just below the Canadian border.
There are two ferries that leave from Michigan as well. One from Copper Harbor and one from Houghton. Plus a seaplane that also leaves from Houghton.