There are HUGE variations in quality and strength mostly from plant care practices. Good nutrients, good lights, ideal temperature and CO2 levels, optimal pruning practices, all contibute to better trichrome development.
Tossing a seed in a pot in your backyard will not get results anything like even a hobbyist grower who is paying attention.
I agree with this completely but it’s not what I was referring to. My point was all the pot at least starts out as legal. The “black market” weed is simply diverted medical marijuana.
Also not even close to the case. There is still a massive illegal growing industry Forest rangers in CA regularly stumble across large grows in national parks. We just recently had a residential fire where a rental house was rented solely for the purposes of using it as an illegal grow facility…nobody lived there.
Ignorance fought. Thank you.
Back in the 70/80’s, I would never know what I would get. Full of stems and seeds, with a few buds (Compared to today). Of course, ya kinda had to take what you got. Comparison shopping was difficult, if a little bit dangerous.
You could smoke the stuff all night (not a good thing).
Today, In legal Colorado, anything I’ve got is reliable good weed. It’s all buds. I have yet to find a seed (I suspect they don’t want you growing your own, of their particular hybrid)
I think the difference is more because the legal growers really know what they are doing.
Can’t really compare prices, since IMHO, there is no comparison.
The pot sold at retail has to be tested both for potency and contamination … not sure the details but the canister I have in front of me has the lab name and test result number on it … something not found with grey market pot … and the retail stuff is better “somewhat” than the grey market … but then again I’m only using grey market stuff that’s been given to me … as I’m a sweetheart kind of [del]guy[/del] wolf …
The extra cost is for taxes … that’s an important selling point to the government … the added revenue will quickly have the state legislatures addicted to the stuff … kinda tickles me that public schools will soon rely on pot revenue to stay open … in the same way these governments got addicted to playing the lottery … they can’t shut the lottery down without closing schools … woot …
Oh, OK Ambivalid. See what you are saying.
I don’t doubt at all that plenty of medical MJ gets diverted. It was pretty easy to get a Med card for myself as my moms care giver. A sympathetic doctor gave us the RX.
I would boil it down and make a salve.
I’m sure plenty of people could get an RX. When I was buying it with the prescription, it was pretty clear that others in the store, where… um, there for less than medical reasons.
I Don’t bother with the RX anymore now that it is legal in Colorado. It only saved the tax. And getting a new RX every year is a just as expensive. And plenty of salves, ointments and tinctures are available. And no doubt it’s better than what I was building.
I think people were talking about what could be produced by modern farming techniques for a legal marijuana crop.
Both the techniques, and the quality of seeds has improved greatly. For example, on my family farm in western Minnesota, as a child we saw yields (bushels/acre) of 40-45. Last year, the yield was near 5 times that. Think what they could do on improving a legal marijuana crop yield!
I’m on a roll this thread.
There are no seeds because plants are sexed and males are normally destroyed.
Ideally you want your plant forming buds, but not to be pollinated. pollination = seeds.
you want the plant making buds and trichomes, and not spending energy making seeds.
Some growers will intentionally keep a few isolated males for breeding and seeding purposes, but pollinating your main crop (all females) would be a disaster.
For California at least
Cannabinoid levels
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The legal weed here in Oregon is very high quality and, as far as I’m concerned, cheap. And the price has been falling due to competition as more stores open and volume growers move in. I don’t smoke a whole lot though – none, some days, 2-4 bongs several times a week, 6-8 bongs over the course of a day if I feel like being stoned. Plus there are hash-strength concentrates, and very potent edibles to be had. Before it was legalized, I bought from a medical grower who sold to friends. It was cheaper than the dispensaries, but he lives out in the country, and I’m never more than a few blocks from a weed shop here in Eugene. It’s easier to just stop at the store on my way home from work. Plus anyone who wants to can grow their own pot. My last birthday it seemed like everyone I knew gave me a bag of home-grown weed. Most of it was pretty good quality, but a lot of it was quite a harsh smoke compared to store-bought. I like a smooth, mellow smoke of potent weed best. No one grows pot from seeds – no one. You absolutely do not want male plants around because they’ll fertilize the females and the buds will be full of seeds and low quality. Everyone who grows their own buys clone starts. Anything else you want to know?
I actually do autos from seed, cant clone autos. If I was going to a more “commercial like” operation, I would totally do clones though.
Really? Why not? I would assume that once the seed had grown to a certain point that it could be cloned like any other.
GST is 5%, and is a national tax that applies to all provinces. PST is the provincial sales tax, and is 7% in BC on top of the 5%, making for a total of 12% sales taxes in BC. AFAIK, only medicine that requires a prescription and is bought through a pharmacy qualifies as tax-free, so you have both taxes on weed, assuming the retailer is honest. Given the current legal status of it, I hear a lot of places aren’t.
400 CDN for an oz of hash does seem fairly pricey to me. I'd pay 10/g or $240-280 CDN an oz through my connections. Weed is usually cheaper, say $7/g or $160-200 CDN an oz for the regular stuff, and the same price as hash for the primo stuff. These prices are assuming you are buying in personal amounts, as the price drops a lot when you buy bulk. For example, I once bought five kilos for $8,000 which is only $1.60/gram.
It will be interesting to see what the legal prices are like and how the black market will react next July when legalization happens.
Bolding mine.
Have you gone into a new line of work? If so, how’s it going so far?
Oh good lord.
Geez, when i was a kid, i remember people giving the stuff away.
No idea if it was good crap or otherwise, it all smelled too bad to me to bother.
But still…
I think i need to start a new business
Yes, yes people do grow pot from seeds. Very good pot. It is all in the genes, just like everything else. Buy quality seeds, get quality bud.
Last year I bought Pineapple Fields seeds at one of the 5 pot shops in town. A hybrid of mostly Sativa. Huge plants, lots of bud, even though I had to pull a little early due to the extremely wet October I still have 8 ounces of high quality bud left.
This year I ordered the seeds and they came in the mail. Tailspin, a 60/40 mostly Indica hybrid. They are growing out in the full sun of my garden right now.
You DO need to have some gardening skills and an area to grow in. It is in the genes, start with good seeds, get good bud. And anyone who know what they are doing can identify and remove male plants long before they are in any danger of pollinating the females.
I personally do not plan on spending any money on pot again, except for the seeds.
I assume when he says “autos” he means auto-flowering which are strains that start budding automatically after four months or so, unlike most breeds that are triggered by light/dark ratios. Since a clone would be the same age as the parent, the flowering trigger would be messed up.
Back in the day when I’d argue for legalization, I’d ask, “When was the last time you saw a tobacconist hanging around the local high school or liquor wholesalers shooting at each other?” The latter question people could answer.
Most people are familiar with, or at least have heard of, the two main species of cannabis, Indica and Sativa. These plants are photo-period plants, meaning they begin to flower based upon the levels of light and darkness. Usually when there is 12 hours of each they will begin to leave the vegetable stage and go into the flowering phase of their life cycle. These light levels are easily manipulated by indoor growers to speed up the time to flower.
But there is a 3rd kind of cannabis, Cannabis Ruderalis. There is some disagreement whether it actually a third kind or a sub-species of Sativa. Anyway, this kind is not a photo-period bloomer but enters the flowering stage after reaching a certain age, 5 to 7 weeks, independent of the level of light. But it is a scrawny little plant that really doesn’t have much THC at all and was mostly ignored until plant breeders started fiddling around with it in the '80s.
Ruderalis has now been hybridized with more potent strains to produce auto-flowering plants that enter the flowering stage much earlier. These kinds are the auto-flowering strains.