I feel the same way about Reagan, so I can knock overt his tombstone?
You see Magiver the thing is that you and I and these doofuses with our lack of actual expertise on geology do not get to make the call. There are these people called geologists who work for the Parks and who do get to make the call and the point of National Parks is to protect those features. I do not get the impression that even know what a hoodoo actually is but it does not matter - you and I and these random idiots are not entrusted to know or decide what is worth protecting and what is something that should be destroyed for safety or improvement. No one is more arrogant about their knowledge than the ignorant.
Of course not. There is a difference between Regan’s voodoo economics and Magiver’s hoodoo eco-nock-it.
Serious question: Why not knock over this one?
You can’t see why these places are special and need to be protected? Really?
The past year has been pretty bad on the image of Chinese tourists. There was the incident with the ancient Egyptian carvings and the DC paint vandal who went all misbehaving tourist inside the Episcopalian/Anglican cathedral.
Nothing was destroyed and I didn’t advocate that anybody do this. I just pointed out it wasn’t a national treasure in any sense of the word. It was literally a rock sitting on dirt. $500 is more than a sufficient fine for what they did.
But, as you say, a geologist decides to cut a foot path into a mountain so tourists can march forth and appreciate nature then we give them a salary and a gun to protect and preserve the damage they caused.
What’s needed in this case is perspective.
those are actual hoodoos. They are rock formations top to bottom that weathered by wind erosion over time. This was a rock siting on DIRT along a path. How do you not understand this?
Watch the video again. When the rock falls, you can see how the underside is shaped to match where it was resting. That was not just a dirt ledge.
Regardless, it’s a protected area. That means everything.
Okay let’s start with the most basic - a cite please that lower portion of the formation was DIRT and not stone. Is this the result of your expert analysis of the video? Because honestly I can find nothing else that describes what they knocked over other than a 170 million year old rock formation.
You can see it’s sitting on dirt. If it was rock it would be… attached. It would also show the striations of weathering due to different layers of rock.
Now how do you square that with the deliberate destruction of nature by the park service so that tourists can safely walk amongst every OTHER sacred rock.
$500 is more than enough to cover the displacement of a rock.
Sandstone looks very much like dirt.
And you can’t just wander where you want.
And what did the park service do in response to this?
And how do you see a court case playing out? It’s going to be a lawyer holding up pictures of various size rocks and asking for a fine or the restoration of the rock to it’s original location. Or maybe they get topick one at random to restore world order.
What the hell does a future court case have to do with the discussion here?
I would think everything. The thread has produced everything emotion from great angst to meh. I’m closer to meh and think they should be fined.
It’s not currently a court case. They’re “thinking” about it. But if they were to move in that direction I don’t see it traveling very far. it’s going to literally be a debate over the size of rocks and the breaking of park rules against wandering off the path. They could place the rock back on it’s pile of dirt but I suspect the park service doesn’t really want anything dangerous along the walkway so I think they will be fined for breaking park rules and that will be the end of it.
I can’t believe what Lucas did to star wars with the phantom menace. He should be legally obligated to remake the newer trilogy using only the budget he used for the original trilogy - adjusted for inflation of course.
A big rock that could be pushed over by a single human is one that’s about to tumble over soon enough, possibly onto children or the elderly. They should have notified rangers; now the nation is more ethically aware on the matter.
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For people who don’t speak Mormonese, being “prompted” is is code word for having the Holy Ghost tell you what to do.
We’re also told that a little faith will move mountains. That moving mountains may expose insurance fraud wasn’t covered in Sunday school, though
True that. When I lived in Zion I used to snarl at people just for picking up rocks and throwing them. I once read my own mother the Riot Act for trying to smuggle a pine cone out of Sequoia NP.
Oh my god, are you serious? Will the church actually warm up to this defense or distance itself from the shenanigans?
People afraid of rocks should quite literally never leave the safety of the indoors and should absolutely refrain from attempting to alter the alien environment.
If you are the type who isn’t bothered by the defacement of natural monuments, then the natural monuments aren’t for you. Stay indoors.