Shoots him for taking a piss.
Or so says the idiotic comment on the news story about the officer who shot a guy.
Video linked in the second story. Officer see a guy taking a piss. Questions him. The guy provides fake name, drives off and when the officer finally corners him, the guy tries to run him over.
And the posted comment is
Sigh.
I have a compadre on another forum who is forever posting outraged screeds linking to stories like this. It doesn’t seem to bother him that nearly every one is an incomplete, early story written with obvious bias, and that as the story unfolds, it turns out to be quite different.
The commenter is an idiot. The guy was shot for trying to run over the deputy.
I think there’s a legitimate argument to be made about whether the deputy had other options available - to move out of the way and shoot the tires or something else - but the guy was a threat to life and limb and already guilty of various offenses and of being a danger to anyone else on the road or environs. Ultimately it’s the victim’s fault, even if the deputy went for the most extreme response allowable.
This is the problem with so many comments sections, and really makes you wonder if elections are good ideas or not.
As Gyrate says, there are legitimate questions if it was handled correctly, but the guy wasn’t shoot for taking a piss. Of course, articulating that takes more than three seconds so it’s just easier to write something stupid.
Skip to 6:40 in the video in the second link. If the cops have stopped you after a chase, with lights and sirens, and you then physically push a uniformed officer with your bumper, while he aims a gun at your face while shouting “Stop the car!”…you are committing Suicide by Cop.
Well, maybe the guy wasn’t done and he had to, you know, finish up, with a soda bottle or something. These things happen…
Drunk moron plays chicken with an armed cop and loses.
I don’t like that cops carry guns, but I don’t see too much to get upset about here. Behave like a dick, and see what happens.
The comment section of any news story makes me weep for humanity.
Unless he’s just really, really drunk and doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing.
You think?
Since when has that become an acceptable excuse for endangering another person’s life or well-being?
Who said anything about it being acceptable? I was questioning if he was aware enough of what he was doing to call it Suicide by Cop.
I could see this as being a “he’s not going to shoot me for driving 2mph” thing as easily as Suicide by Cop.
That said, I also think there is an argument to be had that officers should not deliberately place themselves in harms way and subsequently use deadly force when confronting a petty criminal. DWI, as bad as it may be, is still only punishable by a couple of days in jail (1st offence), not a crime to be killed over, even if you’re colossally stupid.
I’m sorry, I watched the video and there is no way that is justified. The officer could have easily moved out of the way, and continued the pursuit.
If the officer already had the tag number of the car, then the entire chase isn’t necessary.
It’s a sympton of the ‘no matter what it takes, I’m going home tonight’ mentality.
It’s the same reason that a group of 3 cops will shoot a mentally handicapped man holding a knife.
The cop endangered his own life. Then shot to “defend” himself, when stepping out of the way of a slow moving car was just as easy to do. He had lots of options open to him. This wasn’t a bank robber or other dangerous criminal.
Maybe his buddy was holding his beer… and watching.
At least the cop didn’t tase or shoot the dog…so, there’s that.
I’ve got mixed feelings.
I worked night security on campus when I was in school (got to study on the job and received a discount on tuition, yea). On a couple of times, I found drunk drivers and radioed them into the campus police.
There was one guy who did something similar to this, keep slowly driving at me while I was yelling at him to stop. Not having a gun, I simply moved aside and the police caught him a few minutes later.
About not being dangerous, I donno. If the guy was so drunk that he couldn’t realize there was a cop in front of him screaming at thim, then stopping him before he killed someone seems like a good idea.
I do wonder if the cop couldn’t do something like shoot out his tires as he was going pretty slow.
I get confused about the criminal apologists actually think about these sorts of things. The evidence shows he driving DUI. He also wouldn’t show id. What if the officer let the man go and he killed a whole family a couple of minutes later? How would you feel about that? Psychic abilities aren’t in the police job descriptions. They only can be trained to react to the immediate situations they are confronted with.
If you are a officer, all you know that someone isn’t cooperating while being an obvious risk to yourself and the general public. Who do you worry about more? Do you just let someone flee and say 'No big deal, he was just drinking too much and didn’t want to get arrested. Maybe a coworker or the EMT’s can deal with it if he causes other mayhem down the road".
I never understood this line of reasoning if there is any. Once you are stopped, you have to cooperate whether you did anything or not. Any acts of violence including the use of a deadly weapon against an officer (vehicles definitely count) can be met with deadly force. It doesn’t matter if you were originally stopped on suspicion of murder or jaywalking. That has no relevance. Resisting arrest and assault with a motor vehicle or other deadly weapon is a separate crime that can lead to anything from tasing to being shot.
Did you watch the tape? The guy was driving around the same block over and over. On deserted streets! He wasn’t going to be hitting anyone. Actually he didn’t look drunk to me. His driving wasn’t that erratic. I don’t know if he was driving drunk. I do know that the cop was in no danger. He could have easily stepped aside. He also could have pinned the car with his cruiser. Probably not trained in how to do that.