Vaping saves lives - regulation should keep that in mind

City of Milwaukee urges everyone who lives there to stop vaping immediately

North Carolina sues 8 e-cigarette companies, alleging marketing to children

Sounds to me like somebody may not have understood the difference between vegetable oil and vegetable glycerin. Try to vape Wesson, and you’re likely to wind up with lipid pneumonia.

Idk if this has been posted yet but it seems relevant to this discussion.

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The CEO of JUUL has issued a warning: “Don’t vape”

I may have smoked my first cigarette so that some boy would think I was cool. But I smoked the second one–and all the ones after that because I liked life more when I had a little nicotine in my blood. I liked ME better. Certainly the desire to “look cool” is part of the motivation to consume drugs. But they also feel good. People, including children, like feeling good.

Juul and Altria’s bottom line suffers if only smokers use their products. Such pious warnings obscure the delight executives must feel at knowing a new generation of nicotine addicts is emerging.

Nope. I’m implying that vaping should not be regarded as a free magic bullet. In fact, it should be stopped.

I am against all smoking because it (the addictive, carcinogenic nicotine) gets in my lungs as well. Nicotine addicts can use a patch that won’t affect passers-by.

Got a cite for that?

"Several lines of evidence indicate that nicotine may contribute to the development of cancer. Evidence from experimental in vitro studies on cell cultures, in vivo studies on rodents as well as studies on humans inclusive of epidemiological studies indicate that nicotine itself, independent of other tobacco constituents, may stimulate a number of effects of importance in cancer development."

Thanks!

Worcestershire Sauce is apparently the hip e-flavour all the kids are into.

Now if only broccoli liquid extract could get somehow worked into e-juice.

*"…studies have repeatedly shown that young people use e-cigarettes because of the flavors. If flavors didn’t exist, they say they wouldn’t vape.

Many of the more than 15,000 unique e-cigarette flavors have silly names, such as Honey Doo Doo, Booger Sugar and Barney Pebbles. Names that aren’t exactly aimed at an adult audience. Kids are also attracted to the mint and menthol flavors, long thought to be the purview of adults."*

Cannabis also has similar silly names.

So why not just ban Juul? Or convenience store sales of tobacco products? Why is nicotine the one product that requires a flavor ban?

:confused:Really???

Rest
God
God’s Gift
God’s Treat
Bio-Jesus
Critical Mass
Cat Piss
Floppy Donged Gorilla
Hippie Crippler (actually that one’s not too bad)
Afghooey
Connie Chung
Romulan
Girl Scout Cookies
Rockstar Master Kush
…ok maybe one or two dumb ones.

Michigan becomes first state to ban flavored e-cigarettes (WaPo article)

We actually do something not clearly an unmitigatedly awful thing! Yay for MI! (Oh yeah, electing Whitmer would also count there too)

A second possible vaping-related death is under investigation in Oregon

Summit County [OH] Public Health Urges Residents to Stop Using Vaping Products

CDC warns against vaping after mysterious spike in lung illnesses

So a bunch of people got sick vaping contraband THC vape cartridges. Sounds like a perfect reason to ban Tooty Fruity nicotine vape juice.

Get your facts straight if you want to contribute to this debate. You are conflating to different points.
Jurisdictions are seeking to ban “Tooty Fruity nicotine vape juice” and suing the manufacturers and distributors because they appeal to and were being subtly marketed to underaged users.
The current spate of vape related illnesses seems to be (and the investigation is far from over) related to additives in some vape products; both “legitimate” and black market varieties.

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New study suggests the solvents used in vaping can cause serious damage to lung tissue, even without nicotine. It’s the vaping itself that may be the problem, not the drugs.

“Vaping causes ‘havoc’ with lungs, study with mice finds”