Vascular Dementia: How to mourn your Mom while she's still alive

Mom’s been diagnosed for 5 1/2 years. A few minor strokes prior to that. The first few years had Mom with a 24/7 aide living in my old bedroom.

A fall in early 2021 was caused by pretty bad Lumbar stenosis. A laminectomy cleared that out, she emerged from that on the walker. It was during that recovery that a brain CT formalized her diagnosis.

Mom was on a walker except when she walked away from it. Doing cooking mostly on her own ( cause, it’s her kitchen dammit ! ) and bathing with some assistance.

I’ve been on her checking account for more than 10 years and as of about early 2019 she had me start writing her bills. That level of detail was becoming a bit difficult.

Trips from NYC to Philly were pretty constant in the first year to 18 months. Good thing the world was on a lockdown and both my career and that of my Dearly Beloved™ had come to a screeching halt. I got into the pattern of doing Bills 'N Pills. It took over 2 years to get her core medications in sync. During that time I was filling up the typical plastic pill boxes. Her aide- most aides- are legally prohibited from “dispensing” medications. So, the aide would flip up the little cover for “Monday Lunchtime” pills. Mom would tip them out into a cup, and work her way through them with water or juice.

Like many older people, Mom is always cold. This means no air conditioning at all but for the worst of days. I realized that since those pill boxes were not airtight, some of the pills were slowly disintegrating from the moisture in the air. (Philadelphia in the summertime. It’s a miracle anyone was focused enough to write, no less sign, the Declaration of Independence…) Mom was also taking to dipping into the pill bottles if she thought she’d missed a dose here or there. Not good.

Mom’s PCP suggested we use a service that packages each set of pills with a label. Whatta waste of money, thought I. 10 minutes on Amazon and we were set with heat sealer device and the right size of sealable plastic pouches. 4 meds issues per day. We heat seal them together like condoms. Problem solved.

There have been some nightmare moments with substitute aides. One almost set the house on fire. Had I not been down there and found the plastic container she placed into the oven to heat Mom’s dinner up, well…that all-wooden house built in 1949 might have gone up fast.

All of this is background. I opened this thread because I’ve been struggling with watching Mom slowly disappear. It is just monstrous. 2 years ago, she stood for too long at the kitchen counter, didn’t have her walker nearby and as she walked into the living room, her strength gave out and she fell. Broke her femur. Surgery, recovery, rehab, etc. That was the last of her muscle density, lost to laying in bed for a few weeks. She never walked again. She moves from laying in bed to sitting in wheelchair to commode to bed, etc etc. She CARES less and less about the situation.

Up by 5am, she will sit and “read” her New Yorker magazines. She struggles to retain anything and so the reading is habit and clutching onto what information input she get enjoy in the moment. It all washes away a few moments after she puts the magazine down.

Since last autumn there’s been quite a decline. She still knows who I am face to face. On the phone, most of the time. She cannot hold a conversation most days. It isn’t word salad yet. She tells me, “my brain is mush. I don’t know what I am trying to say”.

My guilt level is immense. Because I’ve done quite a bit of mourning her already. Especially the first year or two. Now, I’ll run down there (110 miles give or take) for the day to take care of stuff. Sit with her for a little while. Do my chores. Head back. For the first few years it was very hard to leave. She isn’t one to guilt me out- I do that all on my own. But more recently? Not much registers in a big way. We come and go, do our Bills N Pills, make her special breakfast that she adores. Up to 27 plastic tubs of it, living in the deep freezer.

By the time she dies, I think I will be hardest on myself because I likely WON’T be overwrought. My mother is slowly disappearing.

Mom’s a retired Hospice nurse. She’s already gone through 2 agencies. Because she does not have a terminal diagnosis akin to cancere or MS or Parkinson’s, she may be taken on initially but eventually they cannot justify keeping her on the books. The family’s exposure to the Hospice world is pretty extensive because of Mom; nobody freaked out when the first agency came into the house. We all get it.

If you’re living this now, be kind to yourself. You’re not a monster because you’re worn out of mourning someone while they aren’t dead yet. It is a brutal situation to be in. Cannot IMAGINE what it has been for family and friends who have done this for a spouse.

I know what you mean. My dad had the same dementia your mom has, which was made worse by a stroke. When he died in December of 2024, as we were doing the funeral stuff, my stepmom and I both said we weren’t sad. We’d both spent the past four years mourning every day. Not having to see him go through that anymore was a relief.

Your description of this horrible and agonizing situation was beautiful and eloquent.

Making it all sound just that much worse.

I’m sorry for all that you’re going through. It would be difficult enough – given everything you described – if you were totally emotionally detached from the situation.

But that’s not how we’re wired, now is it – particularly when it comes to our parents.

I wish you peace, health, and strength, and as much ‘good time’ with your mother as is possible.

Yeah: take care of you, too.

Just about a year now that my uncle was found to be living in very bad circumstances, having stopped looking after himself. I thought at first that he might be able to go back to supervised living, but it became apparent that he would not. Fortunately he had savings to cover this period. He died in May.

My mom died less than a week ago.. she was diagnosed longer ago than your mom , but we were fortunate enough that she was continent and mobile enough in our house until quite near the end.

I do not envy you the length of your journey.

We were “lucky”, we called Hospice less than two weeks before she died.

When my mother developed dementia from strokes, we were as lucky as the circumstances permitted that at least it wasn’t complicated by physical ailments, and she was cared for in a nursing home the last two years, dying at age 91. My mother didn’t so much die as fade away. By the time her heart and lungs stopped working there hadn’t really been anyone there for some time.

My late wife died a few years ago after a drawn out physical, but not much mental, decline. So some similarities, and many differences from your situation.

That feeling is 100% normal and common. But it’s also utterly unhelpful and misplaced. You have no real reason to feel guilt. You are losing Mom one slice at a time, and mourning the loss of each slice as it goes is appropriate, not inappropriate.

With the result that at some point you come to the spot where not only is her death a relief for her, it’s a relief for you. And you need not feel guilt over that relief. It too is an normal and appropriate emotional response.

So I suppose I’d separate normal or common responses that are helpful, from normal or common responses that are unhelpful. Mourning while the living are alive but severely afflicted and fading is helpful. Relief when someone’s long and severe suffering has ended is helpful. Awareness that everyone is different and what you feel won’t exactly match anyone’s template, not even your own in helpful. Awareness that no matter how much you do it won’t be enough to alter the final result is helpful.

Conversely, guilt is always unhelpful, no matter what you’re feeling guilt over. No matter how perfectly you did everything, with hindsight you can always imagine more or different you might have done better. Expecting and accepting that is helpful. Agonizing over it is unhelpful.


Bottom line:
I’m sorry Mom is going through this. I’m sorry you’re going through this. But abusing yourself with guilt is mostly optional and entirely unhelpful. Take care of yourself throughout her/your shared ordeal.

We’re all here for you, as much as imaginary internet people can be.

I am so sorry for all that you’re going through. I lost my mum to complications from lung cancer a few years ago and I felt so incredibly guilty about all the things I thought I should have done but didn’t, and the things I did do but then perhaps shouldn’t have. It did me no good in the end, she was still gone.

Losing your mother one piece at a time is truly a nightmare scenario, you are doing what you can and being the best carer you can for her. There’s no need for guilt, but you will feel what you feel. We’re here for you when you need to vent or just ask for a virtual hug. There’s strength enough for everyone here.

The two most important things to take in: no guilt, not helpful and wastes vast amounts of energy that can be used for good and taking care of yourself is job one.

Signed/ yet another imaginary internet friend

Man on man, I feel depressed now.

I’m truly sorry for you.

Believe me the dying person does not want to be the source of your discomfort.

If I had my druthers I’d die quickly and without pain or drama. Preferably in my sleep.

Alas, it’s not gonna go that way.

I’ve followed this channel for several years. The man’s two sons alternate taking care of their dad.

His journey through dementia and declining health is extremely difficult for his families.

Three years ago Ed was still taking walks with his sons. Questions about his house and car had to be answered repeatedly. (Ed sold his house and car years ago).

I think he’s forgotten about owning a house and car. I haven’t heard him ask about it recently.

His health has declined significantly in the past couple years.

His feisty personality still comes through.

All of these replies are tremendously helpful even as some of them sting.

I posted in here because I- a proud 99er- have never seen thoughtful discourse/ supportive remarks/ solid debate as any less real here on the Straight Dope than I have in my more corporeal life.

The posters who delineated things Helpful and Not Helpful-- those really landed well with me. I thank you especially for them.

Next week, Mom turns 91. Her PCP informs the family that according to her most recent bloodwork, she has the body internally of a 39 year-old. Mom eats incredibly healthy food. While it is true she’s bed/wheelchair-bound and gets zero exercise, her body functions for the most part are just incredible. Tough old gal.