Vatican Embassy

Ireland closed its Embassy in the vatican, what purpose is it to have an embassy to the vatican at all? Is it control that the vatican wants? or power?.
Though why anyone would want to have diplomatic links with a Little state that was the first to sign an Agreement with Hitler in 1933 and in doing so showed support for Hitler’s socialist party, and by signing an agreement with Hitler could not condemn his actions.

Apparently the U.S. has an embassy with the Holy See:
Here’s its use:

Now, think about the Catholic influence on the population in Africa and the HIV/AIDS crisis there and that might open a window on why the U.S. would want to work with the Pope on such issues.

This certainly isn’t appropriate for General Questions. While it could potentially go in Great Debates, I think the second sentence predisposes it for the Pit, so I’m sending it there.

Colibri
General Questions Moderator

Err.. Ireland has an embassy to Germany as well, and Germany actually elected the Nazi’s. Having an embassy with another country isn’t some sort of endorsement of every thing that country has done over the last century. Its to facilitate diplomatic relations.

Vatican City is a sovereign nation - although a unique, tiny and theocratic one - and given its influence among the world’s millions of Catholics, it’s no surprise that other countries might want to have diplomatic relations with it. The best and most prominent way to do that is to have an embassy.

“Hitler’s socialist party”?

Really?

Germany elected the Nazi’s what? :stuck_out_tongue:

Countries have embassies in Germany. I think that country may have been even more vociferous in its support for Hitler at the time. Why are you picking on the Vatican, and not Germany?

I’m surprised. OP joined way back in January.

Godwin’d in 0. Impressive.

Lot of countries signed treaties with Nazi Germany. I think the concordat was a mistake by the Vatican, but it was a pretty tempting mistake to make at the time, and were I in their position, I probably would have signed it too.

Who is Galty Boy?

Dunno, but he’s in the john.

Well, I’m sure he’ll give us an Objective answer to the question he posed… :wink:

But concordats are signed constantly; in Spain we don’t even talk about “signing a concordat”, we talk about “renewing the concordat”. They need to be renewed because they come with time limits, but their renewal doesn’t mean the RCC thinks the guy signing for the other party is the nicest fellow ever (I get the distinct feeling that there’s a few Spanish-side signataries that the corresponding Nuncio would have been terribly, terribly sorry to see devoured by piranah - sorry for the poisoned piranah, that is). I’d be very surprised if there hadn’t been a concordat with Germany prior to 1933; if it was up for renewal, it needed to get signed or the Nunciature removed.

Removing your embassy is a very strong step; if countries removed theirs any time a country elects a president/chancellor/prime minister/Pope their own rulers dislike… the image that comes to mind resembles a ska concert more than the sedate gavotte that normal diplomatic relations are supposed to be.

I don’t think there had been, actually. The Kulturkampf had basically meant that Imperial Germany wasn’t interested in good relationships with the Holy See. After the war there was talk about signing a concordat by the Weimar government, but that fell through (although the Holy See had signed concordats with both the provincial governments of Bavaria and Prussia, and the Papal Nuncio to Prussia was de facto nuncio to Germany, but the 1933 one was the first official concordat.

Galtee mountain boy needs to chillax.

The Vatican has an embassy in DC at Massachusetts Ave across from the Naval Observatory (Vice President’s House). It is very busy.

Notably it has a perpetual pedophile victim / protester in front of it. He’s there every day I drive by.

They should send Swiss Guards to all their embassies, like we send Marines.

“lets’ go to the Vatican Embassy and look at the guy in the funny uniform.”

There are very few jobs were you can wear a funny hat, carry a halberd, and defend pedos.