Very disturbing read Earth 'will expire by 2050'

And the good news is that higher standards of living go with lower birth rates, so the population growth (which is mostly India and sub-Saharan Africa today) will decline also.

But is there enough food and water to go around for 7 billion people? And by 2050 will there be major shortage of water and food? Will there be enough food and water for 10 billion people or more?

Great screen name/OP combo!

Thankfully, most of the world doesn’t even want to. They want solid houses, they want schools, they want medical care, they want to watch their children grow and meet their grandkids, but many people look at American “house porn”* and, rather than “oh my God what a beautiful house” go “oh my God, can you imagine having to clean and maintain all that?” Apartment living and shared gardens (aka “parks”) are a lot more sustainable than individual houses surrounded by grass; locations with higher population densities make public transportation logical where a spread out population does not.

  • The name isn’t mine, I got it from the board but I can’t remember from whom.

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Shades of Malthus! Turns out he was wrong, too.

It’s easy to make these dire predictions based on limited knowledge, and of course not being able to see the future with changes that nullify the predictions. It’s a lot harder to predict this kind of stuff accurately. Every doomsayer I’m aware of has been proven wrong.


Taking the world as a whole, no.


Was there anything else?

To quote the late George Carlin,

The mere notion that humans could kill off the planet is laughable. We could kill ourselves off, but the planet isn’t going to expire.

Yes, there’s plenty. We have a difficult logistics problem to get enough to the right people but in general we can produce all that is needed.

In 1968 there was a book called The Population Bomb by Professor Paul R. Ehrlich and his wife, Anne Ehrlich. It was a best seller. It basically said that world was overpopulated and there would be mass starvation on a global scale in the 1980’s. That didn’t happen so they kicked the can to the 1990s. Still didn’t happen so it’s now kicked even further down the road. Also the world’s population has more than doubled since the book first came out.

Of course there’s a lot of hungry people out there. Much of that is due to politics and war. A few years ago when Ethiopia was starving, there was food available; however denying food to your enemies is a very good weapon.

Of course the world’s population probably can’t keep doubling every few decades. Eventually there will be pressures that level the population and starvation may just be one of them. War could be another. However affluent societies seem to have a lower birth rate.

According to current theory, it won’t. The sun will enter its red giant phase in 5.4 billion years, at which time the earth will be engulfed by the sun. The sun will have better than a billion years as a red giant (before it collapses) even after the earth is destroyed.

Doesn’t bother me…I’ll be expiring well before then.

Well, if the Earth does expire, it’ll lose its Charter Member status.

“A planet doesn’t explode of itself,” said drily
The Martian astronomer, gazing off into the air –
“That they were able to do it is proof that highly
Intelligent beings must have been living there.”

John Hall Wheelock

So why are there so many people in Africa and Asia that are starving?Where is the food and water in Africa and Asia?

The world already expired in 2012, didn’t it?

No point in being scared now.

Distribution and economics is a much bigger hurdle to getting everyone fed than actually growing enough food. We could (and I hear that we actually do) produce enough food for most everyone to live reasonably comfortably; it’s the problem of actually getting it to starving people, negotiating with local governments, working through red tape, and other social, political, and economic issues that keep it from happening.

It’s already been mention: Logistics, Politics, War and money.

Yup, plenty of food. Just isn’t always in the right place.

As the sage said, Move to the Food!

What, are you kidding? There’s a Starbucks every 500 feet where I am.

And then the garbage union goes on strike for a couple of weeks.