Please don’t let anyone tell Al Sharpton!
Maybe.
I just hope I never live somewhere it takes the police to “contain” a 5 yr old.
By the way the way, the last time I encountered a 5 yr old standing on a desk, it was just a matter of calming her down. I admit she didn’t use the same language but she was fairly free with her fists. She was demon for the year she was in my class. A lovable demon though.
After she whacked me I became a family friend. Five years later I still am.
That was about the most unsocialized 5 year old I’ve ever seen. And on top of this problem we have mommy. Sounds like mommy is 9/10 of this kids problem. Maybe ----- just maybe - mommy will wise up and use her energy to help her child rather than at attempts to make money at her child’s expense - What a jackwad
You mean you can actually be diagnosed with a Mood Indigo Disorder?
I saw the video and have read the reports. It sounds like they are dealing with a child with Oppostional Defiant Disorder (“ODD”). I’ve been there with my son. It’s not pretty. These aren’t ‘normal’ tantrums; these are super, uncontrollable tantrums. There is no reason. Sore behinds, spankings, and most any other punishment (to which I am not opposed, if the situation warrants, but that is rare) are useless when dealing with an ODD child. This is considered abnormal child psychology; the child is not rational, threat of punishment is useless, and carrying out the punishment will not hinder another incident. I am no psychologist, but the mother is doing her daughter a huge disservice if she doesn’t get the girl evaluated. If I’m correct, they both need to start seeing a child psychologist, so they both can learn how to handle this.
My son came within an eyelash of being sent to a special school because of this and another psychological problem. Thanks to lots of therapy, he didn’t. He’s still a little behind his age group maturity wise, as he “lost” time dealing with his issues, but he’s not far behind and catching up quickly.
The thing that I find so sad, is the assumption that she was just misbehaving. Maybe she was or maybe there is something wrong with her. Somethings, a beating or being “tough” can’t fix.
In another life, we were foster parents and saw behaviour like this and believe me, those kids were beaten by the best. They received a tough love, so tough they had to be removed from their parents. Some of them were damaged and some of them were just spoiled, but you couldn’t tell which, until you spent time with them…you sure as hell couldn’t tell in a few minutes of watching video.
They couldn’t stop themselves…all the beatings, all the restraints, all the toughness, couldn’t stop some of these kids because they couldn’t help themselves…there’s nothing sadder than watching a 7 year old have a “tantrum”, wrap her in a blanket until she calms down…except realizing that she was raped by brother…AFTER her mother allowed her various boyfriends to go first and it started when she 3 or 4.
Would the video tape show that? I hope this kid is just the product of bad parenting, that can be fixed.
What’s with the resentment towards this kid? I’ve noticed a pattern of the usual suspects turning up, whenever there’s a child misbehaving thread and saying the same things over and over with statements like “precious”, “special” and the rest?
Something is clearly wrong, yet instead of compassion for this child, there’s contempt. She’s 5 or 6 years old.
I envy you your perfect children and parenting skills and despite my own vindictiveness, don’t wish such a child on any of you.
(confused look) Of course you do! That’s how they learn appropriate behavior, whether from their mothers and packmates or from their human equivalents. Dogs have a reset button on their butts and if Rover is growling at the mailman you whack him on the reset button while telling him “NO!” in a firm voice.
holmes - maybe, maybe not. Now we are just playing the “what if” game. What if she is just a spoiled rotten brat who needs some discipline?
As cold as it sounds, if your child has mental, emotional, or behavior problems, put them in a school that is better suited to handle their needs. I send my kids to school to learn, not to be distrupted by your problem child.
What’s with the resentment towards this kid? I’ve noticed a pattern of the usual suspects turning up, whenever there’s a child misbehaving thread and saying the same things over and over with statements like “precious”, “special” and the rest?
Something is clearly wrong, yet instead of compassion for this child, there’s contempt. She’s 5 or 6 years old.
I envy you your perfect children and parenting skills and despite my own vindictiveness, don’t wish such a child on any of you.
Thank you. All the mudslinging won’t help this little girl but someone like you may. 
The contempt towards this kid, in thread isn’t “what if”. Now is it?
As you said, every child is not the same. What worked for your parent and brother-in-law may not work for others.
GRR I forgot the tags.
Ummmm, no. I never said that it was. I was referring to your armchair diagnosis.
It wasn’t a diagnosis. I was merely sharing my experience in dealing with children with similar behaviours to contract the usual, “spoiled brat, needs a good beating” mantra that flows around here.
I’m disappointed that I didn’t see the school people try to distract her to some other activity. Perhaps that was tried before the available footage. I’m not going to pretend to know the ins and outs of the situation. But, I can plainly see that what was tried didn’t work. Having to call the police was ample evidence that what was tried didn’t work.
The police should’ve asked the girl to come with them peacably first. Her demeanor indicated that she may have complied with the officers. It’d be hard to argue that she represented a genuine threat to the live and limbs of the officers. The only reason I can see for the use of handcuffs would be to prevent her from hurting herself during her resistance. However, it’s not clear that she would’ve resisted the officers if they’d told her to get in the car. AFAIK, cops still have the ability to touch civilians, so they could’ve held her hand, shoulder, wrist, or whatever while walking her to the car.
It was a smart move to video tape the affair.
I think everyone who has to deal with kids should be trained in teh methods of large-animal trainers. If they can train a bear to ride a bicycle…
I didn’t see holmes offer a diagnosis. He just said it was irrational and ignorant to start heaping contempt upon the child, and it is. Even if the child was “spoiled,” it’s still not the kid’s fault. All five year olds are innocent. There is no such thing as a guilty one. There is no such thing as a bad one. Getting angry at the child is misplaced and immature no matter what the circumstances.
I don’t agree with hurting her, but what is your big deal with this kid? Why are you defending her so much? I understand that you have a girl. But your kid obviously doesn’t act like that. They could only do so much to not hurt her and risk getting sued even more. Is it all the sudden illegal for police to handcuff little girls? Why the exception for her?
OMG!!11! 5 year old girl!
Not a big deal really. The real problems are at home. Luckily, you don’t have those problems with your kid.
That’s what I always tried to tell my parents, “I’m innocent!”
It’s not clear that they needed to handcuff her. Perhaps something lesser may have worked for the officers.
Maybe a time out. uummm?