Boy, did you miss the point.
Dude, no need to be harsh. I must’ve missed the point, too, as I state above. I suppose I can see why Scorsese did it, but I didn’t like it and thought it was a poor choice given the overall approach of the show.
Meh.
It’s not like Scorsese collapsed a building because it was a good special effect. We know there will be artistic reasons because that is the quality of his work
So the inquisitive response would be to ask … why - to try and understand the artists intent. If you don’t even get that far … meh.
The minute I realized it was happening for real within the show, I could see what Scorsese was doing. Finestra was so jacked by the music, drugs and the scene that was there that he knew he had to stay in the game and not sell the company.
And…wait for it…this big message fell on him like a ton of bricks. :rolleyes:
If that collapse is needed for later plot stuff, fine - I will be interested to see it. But if it was just about Richie getting a sign that he needed to stay in music, I would argue that a dream sequence would’ve been just as effective and not taken folks like me out of the show.
Not a big deal, and clearly Scorsese can make whatever decisions he wants. It just didn’t work for me and apparently a few others.
Or he snorted the big line, leant back, fell asleep … but he didn’t wake up when that girl climbed over his car and it was all a big hallucinogenic trip; the cool kids, being admitted because you looked good, the casual sex, being there the second before a new band hits the big time, the greatest gig, a chandelier falling on you, the building collapsing, you dust your self off, your stunned and never felt so alive … and cut.
That’s art, not message board literalism.
Haven’t seen Vinyl yet, but for those of you impressed by Andrew Dice Clay’s performance, I had a similar epiphany when I saw him in Woody Allen’s Blue Jasmine a few years ago. He gave an incredibly touching performance and there was even discussion of him getting Best Supporting Actor nod (he didn’t; but I would have been glad if he had). It’s worth checking out.
ETA: By sheer coincidence, I re-watched John Hughes’ Pretty in Pink the other day and caught the Dice in one of his earliest screen appearances, as a bouncer for a club that Molly Ringwald’s character hangs out in (and Jon Cryer as Duckie can never get into). I think he’s credited as “Bouncer” but at one point Duckie calls him “Dice-man.”
Except that’s *not *what happened. Which is what we are all saying. Did you not see the second episode? The collapse was not some hallucinogenic trip.
I have decided to stop trying. Yeah, Richie clearly had the building fall on him in the real world of the show. And it was silly to me. So it goes.
My view: Yes, the building actually fell on Richie. And yes, it was ridiculously stupid.
I will continue to watch to see if the show gets good… though I still haven’t watched Ep2 yet.
I offered you two ways you could have thought about this, both entirely valid as we left E1. None of you did and you “give up” 
I mean the building collapsed and it took me so out of it … shove it up your culturally illiterate, literalist arse.
This is a warning for you, don’t make posts like this directed toward other people outside of the Pit.
I really don’t know what you’re talking about. I posted my thoughts after having watched episode 2 precisely because I assumed at first it was how you described. Then I watched the 2nd episode where that was clearly *not *the case.
It just wasn’t for me but I’ll keep watching for a few more episodes because I know a couple of guys that are in bands in NYC who were asked to be extras.
Yeah.
Taking in the beginning of ep2 - I am probably going to take a step back. Watching him still highly wired and acting out Bruce Lee moves in a movie theater, breaking his partner’s nose - just gone.
I get it - I’ve read the books on the music business like Hit Men, Mansion on the Hill, Walter Yetnikoff of CBS records’s book, etc. I never really engaged it, but have many friends who had record deals, tours, etc. It is fascinating but brutal to watch play out. And Scorsese knows brutal.
And one more for the Dice train…I thought he did a superb regular-guy performance in Casual Sex, an otherwise forgettable throwaway movie.
The scene with Elvis last week was top-notch. It got across how much control the Colonel had over him.
Getting a little tired of Richie being an utter and complete train wreck all the time. Just not believable that someone so broken manages to run a record label. Has he himself actually signed any talent?
I don’t have HBO, but will watch this when it comes to Netflix. But I gotta ask, how’s the guy playing Alice? I watched a clip where he’s golfing, but I’d really love to know about him on stage. Anyone?
Alice was in week 3 or thereabouts. As with almost all of the celebrities they’ve portrayed, I wasn’t all that taken with the impression, but the scene that he was in was well done. As far as impressions, Andy Warhol and Elvis have been the best. I’m guessing Colonel Parker was good too, but I don’t remember enough about him to say. Lennon and Bowie were passable but not great. I can’t remember any others off the top of my head.
There was also Robert Plant from Led Zeppelin.
FWIW, I thought the young Bowie was better than passable.