The same could be said about the movie theater, the mall, or a BBQ. Is this actually about water sports, specifically, or are you just against concealed carry in general? Do you have a problem with an off-duty police officer carrying a firearm during other seemingly unscary activities like grocery shopping? If not, then what is it about swimming that seems to be an exception to you?
Yes, I similarly find it hilarious that someone is so afraid in their daily life that they have to carry a gun around with them (work-required carry not included).
Taking it swimming, as if a gang of pirates is going to attack you in the ocean, just makes it all the funnier.
I ran into a shark once while swimming (snorkeling), when I lived in Guam. It was pretty good-sized, maybe about as big as me. The sharks around there are White Tip Sharks which can attack people.
That time it was as frightened as I was and swam away, but what about next time? The next one might be armed.
Anyone who feels the need to carry a gun 24/7 is exactly the kind of person who shouldn’t have a gun. A gun for in the home, non lethal weapons and defense outside the home. Remove whatever restrictions there are on pepper spray and tasers, the world would be a lot safer.
That’s not the case at all
And how often do you think I’m swimming in the ocean?
Who knows? The fact that you take a gun to the beach with you is funny to me.
This being the Dope & us having to be pendantic - fined. 
Why not? Do you have your next mugging planned in advance?
Good luck getting the legislature to do that & do you really want pepper spray against a mugger with a knife or a gun, or are they now obeying weapons laws?
You’ve never exceeded the speed limit in your 2014 Corvette? You didn’t wink and nudge at the allegations against the speeding engineers…right?
Never.
And I said I understood their plight, not that they were justified in falling to temptation.
And pointing out the violations of others does not relieve you of the fact you committed at least 2 felonies and grossly disappointed those of us that were fond of you.
If the consequences of a plea take people by surprise, it’s because they aren’t paying attention. Even a marginally competent judge will never accept a guilty plea without a lengthy colloquy in which the potential consequences of the plea are explained to the defendant. Those will include not just the direct criminal consequences (e.g., imprisonment, fines, probation) but the collateral consequences like possible loss of immigration status, the right to vote, the firm to possess firearms, and even purely civil matters like disqualification for government benefits or professional licenses.
If you have gone swimming once in the ocean while armed for self-defense, and you are not a SEAL, I think it’s bizarre.
To use an analogy, that crazy magazine GOOP run by one of those famous actresses sells a bunch of woo, like crystals that a customer is supposed to insert in their vagina for “health reasons.” That’s bonkers, even though it may seem like a good idea to whatshername. Going swimming with a gun in your trunks is EXACTLY as weird as sticking rocks up there, in my estimation, whether it is done once or frequently. Both are totally baffling to me.
Am I misinterpreting this, or are you actually comparing owning firearms illegally to exceeding the speed limit? A felony (repeated) to a traffic citation?
IANAL, but I am an immigration paralegal. People’s immigration status (or prospects of obtaining lawful immigration status) are often negatively affected by old criminal convictions. Sometimes it’s possible to get post-conviction relief, i.e. with the assistance of a competent criminal attorney, convince a judge to reopen a criminal case to take into consideration evidence that wasn’t provided at the time of the initial conviction.
In the immigration context, post-conviction relief is sometimes used in particularly sympathetic cases to make slight modifications to the sentence or to the particular charge in order to avoid disproportionately severe immigration consequences that the convicted person wasn’t aware of at the time of the conviction. (For example, immigration law is quite unforgiving regarding even minor drug offenses.)
I have no idea how likely it would be in this case to get post-conviction relief so long after the fact in the particular jurisdiction under discussion, as “I want to be able to shoot at a firing range with my kids as a fun bonding activity” honestly doesn’t seem like as compelling a reason to reopen a criminal case as “I don’t want to be sent back to the hellhole where I was born, where I am likely to be persecuted and even murdered because of my race/religion/nationality/political opinion.” But if it’s important enough to the convicted person, perhaps it’s something to look into.
Yeah, FGE probably didn’t feel that the other thread went so swimmingly, and is shocked that a law enforcement officer isn’t happy with felons so he’s lashing out.
This morning, I jaywalked!!! so my comments can be easily dismissed, but I’m going to take a brave stand here and go against committing felonies. I’d edgy that way.
Tomorrow I’ll try my latte without sugar.
Finned, to be pedantic.
Nah, it really wasn’t like that at all. It was more of a “glass houses” thing rather than any “lashing out” or whatever, but us felons often use faulty logic.
And Jesus, pkbites! Fond of me? Since when? And even so, I knowingly foisted myself on my own petard here. It wasn’t like I wasn’t aware of the consequences of putting my dirty laundry out there.
Plus, with gun discussions such as they are on the board here, I thought it might be a worthy discussion, condemnation or not.
Well, I liked reading some of your posts, even when I didn’t necessarily like what you said or agree with them. Or even comment on them.
In all reality you should posted the other thread as a hypothetical or as something that happened to someone else. It would have resulted in the actual discussion you claim to have been wanting.
Well…as many of us have done, we’ve been through life events since being Dopers. I have as honestly as I can have related events in my life. Who can forget when I killed my dog Riley?
Or when my former step-daughter became a heroin addict while I was married, causing much marital strife and went through it here online with many of you, including the situation that has reached out and proverbially slapped me 16 years later?
Or when I got a DUI and discovered life-altering liver damage in early 2017? And have been sober since the Summer of?
I have been decidedly open about my life, maybe moreso than I should have been, according to some. I’m a heart on a sleeve kinda guy.
The Dope has saved me in so many ways. But I persist in being an idiot…
You’d like to think all courts were created equal.
Nobody is bringing that up but you. How is this applicable to me again?