Watching Captain America, and it doesn’t make sense. Is it his dad or something?
Yes, it’s his Dad, Howard.
In the 2011 movie Captain America: The First Avenger one of the major supporting characters is Howard Stark, Tony Iron Man Stark’s father who is introduced via a Tony Stark bio-film in the opening scene award ceremony exposition dump in the first Iron Man movie. Tony’s daddy issues are further explored in the second Iron Man movie (in which we see Howard Stark again in archival footage from the Stark Expo film strips from the 70s).
Is that what you’re asking about?
You say you’re watching Captain America. Are you watching it with the sound turned down? You clearly know that that Iron Man Stark is named Tony because you refer to him as such in your post. Howard Stark is repeatedly referred to as Howard Stark in Captain America. They have different first names. I’m not saying that characters with different first names are never the same character, but they’re usually not the same character.
I do not remember any of that from Marvel canon.
He’s even alluded to in The Avengers. After Tony meets Captain America he says “That’s the guy my father never shut up about?”
Well, watching further in the movie, canon has pretty much gone off the rails…
Still very entertaining!
Which one is the canon often used for wedding processions?
Wow. You have to be kidding. They never had all that crap when I was reading comics back in the early 70’s!
Is that for real? Who keeps track of that?
And, seriously?
This comic has been brought to you by the letters “W”, “T” and “F”.
Comic books have ridiculous plots, characters, and settings. News at 11. :rolleyes:
Not that they’re “bad” in some objective sense, but comic book fans routinely accept conceits just as ludicrous as “SuperMuppets.”
Howard Stark was pretty much relegated to flashback sequences in Iron Man for the occasional Freudian angst (Tony has daddy issues). Johnathan Hickman expanded the character’s back story about five years ago in S.H.I.E.L.D. partnering him up with Reed Richards’ dad as a pair of genius secret agents during WWII. This, I imagine, is the backstory borrowed for the Avengers/Catain America/Iron Man film franchise.
Well, think for a second about the inherent problems with plotting a comic book for 50+ years. Either your hero ages with the world around him, in which case Cap is now in his 90s, or he doesn’t, in which case you have this eternally youthful guy in 2012 who looks no older than he did in WWII. Or you don’t advance the setting of the book and just keep telling stories from the 1950s. All of those have some serious problems.
The solution most take is to reboot the series every so often to update the origin to a more modern times. But if you do that, it would be boring as hell to retell the exact same story (just substituting Korea/Vietnam/Iraq/Afghanistan for Germany) each time, so you change things up to keep it interesting, while staying true to the essence of the character. A perfect solution? No, but show me a better one, keeping in mind than Jack Kirby and Stan Lee don’t have any better ideas either.
You forgot a fourth possibility: Have the characters be replaced by a new generation, like they’ve done with the Flashes and the Green Lanterns (and like they were sort of doing with Batman, before they undid it).
Though in this case, Captain America has super healing which could make him ageless a la Wolverine.
Eh, just google ‘Get Fuzzy Muppets’.
That’s because the movies are an adaptation of about 80 years worth storytelling. They’re going to pick, choose, update, and adapt the source material. See also: Stark injured in Afghanistan instead of Vietnam and Nick Fury is African-American.
He also spent decades frozen in a block of ice instead of aging. It’s just, where it was once only a couple decades, now it’s much longer, due to “marvel time” being loose and WW2 being a fixed point. Wibbly wobbly timey wimey