Edwin Moses won 107 consecutive hurdles finals.
DQ,
Were you active in the last half of the 20th Century?
Yes.
To try to clear these options up, here’s what the Wiki article says on IQ’s:
The critical issue is Item 2 which reads, **“No, and I don’t know who you’re thinking of.” — The chooser can’t think of someone meeting the criteria. The guesser reveals their answer, and the game changes to direct mode. (If guesser was thinking of the chooser’s person, then the guesser wins.) **"
As I read this, in order to win, the Guesser must name the Chooser’s person after the Chooser says, “I don’t know who you mean.”
Please tell me this is clear! :dubious:
So he gets a DQ since I didn’t know who he was thinking of at the time.
So by the cited section are fictional people allowed?
And forgive me my muddied exchange with DQ preceding IQ.
After another rereading of the rules in my latest post, the issue boils down to this:
Since Sternvogel’s question was Indirect, your answer, instead of “Yes,” should have been “No – I don’t know who you mean” at which point he would have had to say who he meant. And, if he had your person, he would win.
But since you said “Yes” and not “Yes – I’m <whoever you are>” (which would indicate that his IQ described your person and you couldn’t think of somebody else to match his question) I think we need to give Sternvogel a DQ and hope this doesn’t come up again.
That suit you?
In the future, if you would have to answer “yes” to an Indirect Question, but aren’t sure the Guesser has your person in mind, it’s best to force the Guesser to name the person by way of “No – I don’t know who you mean.” That leaves it up to the Guesser.
Goddamn! This is some fuzzy logic!
Maybe in a new thread where we agree up front to allow non-real people. But let’s keep this one to real people – Felix the Cat aside – for IQ’s as well as the Chooser’s Identity.
I’d like to get that new thread going as soon as we get Johnny’s person. Y’all up for that?
How about whoever guesses Johnny’s starts the new thread and sets whatever rules need to be used?
Yo! Johnny L.A., could you summarize the Direct Questions that have been asked and answered for us? I’m getting lost as to which is which. Duh!
EM is:
[ul][li]Male.[/li][li]Not in acting[/li][li]Dead[/li][li]Not an artist[/li][li]Not in sports[/li][li]Was involved in scientific experiments[/li][li]Was in aviation[/li][li]Was an American citizen[/li][li]Experiments for which he’s known were not in space[/li][li]Did his ‘most famous’ work while a member of the Armed Forces[/li][*]Was active in the last half of the 20th Century[/ul]
EM
Has he walked on the moon?
ETA: Never mind - I see that it’s not Edgar Mitchell.
I think you’re slightly off. I beleive that the rules say you can only say no if either
1). no is honest or
2). you can think of someone else who meets the criteria.
So you have to say yes if your person meets the criteria, but you can’t think of any one else who meets the criteria.
Say I pick Neil Armstrong. if someone asks me if I’m an astronaut, I either have to come up with a NA astronaut, or say yes, it’s Neil Armstrong. However if someone asks me are you an actor? I can either say no, I’m not [actor with name starting with NA], or say no, I can’t think of anyone, you get a direct question.
Just so y’all can know, I’m logging off for the day. It may be tomorrow before I’m back here, so y’all work out any additional issues as best you can by way of the Wiki rules. If Johnny’s person gets identified, please start a new thread for any more action in Botticelli.
That has been great fun! Thanks for playing.
I agree with your overall assessment, and the only real issue for me in my answer(s) had to do with whether Sternvogel’s question was an IQ or a DQ, and after the fact, felt Johnny’s “yes” was ill-chosen.
Next time it comes up, your version is how we should treat it.
If everyone gives up, I can give the answer and someone else can start a new game mañana.
I’m not everyone, but I am as important as everyone, and I give up.
Make that more important. Than.
Okay.
Edward Aloysius Murphy, Jr. (January 11, 1918 - July 17th, 1990). Murphy was an Air Force engineer who was involved in high speed rocket sled tests conducted by John Paul Stapp. Stapp was an early supporter of seat belts in cars. Murphy’s claim to fame is being the namesake of Murphy’s Law.
Have you ever reported from Vienna in 1938, where Herr Hitler has not yet arrived?
Crap, somehow I skipped reading a page. Disregard my Murrow query, ha.
So, Johnny L.A. has to start the new thread?
FWIW, I met John paul Stapp, during “Space Camp” in Alamogordo, NM in 1992.
A day late and a dollar short…
*Originally Posted by Elendil’s Heir
Are you (EM) a noted American historian and biographer?
No, and I don’t know who you mean.*
Edmund Morgan, FWIW. On to the next thread, I guess…