Warlords of Draenor: WoW General Discussion thread 10/13/2014

Most toons need help, anyway. My hunter is a solo-killing monster killer, unless he gets ganked.

Although there were several critters in the Throne of Kil’Jaeden that did require me to quickly rez my pet several times. (Packs of new-style fel puppies, I’m looking at you.)

Still the idea that every single day, I’m going to kill enough rares or loot enough treasures to get 10 fel-corrupted apexis fragments is sheer fantasy. I played 5 hours and only really got 6, mostly by lucking out finding rares. After I make a systematic attempt to track down treasures, I figure it’s going to be one turn in every 2-3 days. Feh. Looks like Order of the Awakened rep is going to be pretty slow.

I got 5 ships out of my naval yard last night: 3 destroyers and 2 transports. I feel like I’m ready to step up to a lvl 2 shipyard, but I have a lot more dailies to finish and a fair bit more rep to grind with the outpost faction before I can. :frowning:

Opening night on a PvP server is painful. I couldn’t do anything with the Saberstalkers because I was getting ganked and camped. :mad:

Sorry you’re having difficulty there. PVP servers can be bad enough without events that corral everyone into a smallish area.

Systematically tracking down treasures is my next task too, I think. By chance, I stumbled across a blue weapon and apexis fragment last night in a cave. It’ll be nice to get that done.

I rescued the Apexis Gemcutter last night and unlocked epic gem cutting. There are a handful of recipes, and fortunately, the only one I really want can be purchased.

Unfortunately, it looks like I’m going to hit a wall shortly WRT professions. I will need a crapload of Taladite Crystals and Felblight. Taladite shouldn’t be too bad; according to the 6.2 patch notes, the yield generated by the daily cooldown ability has “greatly increased.” So the 100 Taladite-per-epic-gem requirement shouldn’t be too terrible. But Felblight will be a problem. My sole 100 doesn’t have gathering professions and you cannot obtain Felblight through your garrison, which is how I’ve been getting all my crafting mats. At the moment, I can only get Felblight via fishing (got 1 last night). Sounds like I will have to raise my Alch/Herb alt to 100 pronto.

Had a good night last night. I did my final run through Battle for Hyjal and earned my 60th Exalted rep and “the Beloved” title. No pet from Azgalor, though, and it’s the last thing I want from there. Got one more pet from Black Temple; need just the Fragment of Suffering and a couple more runs to cap Ashtongue rep. Hopefully the main hand Warglaive will drop. Got no Al’ar love from Kael’thas in Tempest Keep, but Brutallus finally dropped his pet in Sunwell Plateau.

I have been stockpiling of all of the “produce daily or by job queue materials,” so that isn’t my problem. As you cite, it’s the Felblight. That’s why the only other level 100 toon I’ve sent to Tanaan is my fresh-minted level 100 skinner/leatherworker. His gear is semi-terrible, but I’ve been very cautious. In fact, I discovered you could do a lot of animal-hunting-and-skinning before phasing the part of Tanaan that includes the Horde and Alliance camps, so the animals that phase with that would be exclusively mine (or anyone else who holds off completing the “set up your outpost” quest.)

I kind of feel like that’s cheating (harvesting an un-phased area), so I went ahead and completed the quest, but in the 45 minutes before that I got 12 Felblights from killing and skinning around 50 critters. Including one rarespawn ravager (not one of the uber elite rares that demand a group; about 500k health, if I recall).

So I’m not terribly worried about that. I’m glad I leveled and geared this toon before the patch hit.

To me, the bottleneck has been the slow rotation of garrison vendors to sell the recipes for the step 5 and 6 upgrades to crafted epics. My main, a hunter, has two engineering crafted items (gun, helmet) and one crafted leather item (chest), but the only garrison vendors that have shown up so far have been fur (tailor recipes, good for one of the other alts but not my priority) and hide (LW recipes, good for my main’s one item, but I’d rather upgrade the gun).

Vindication!

Some years back, I found that I didn’t like the explanation of those spikes in the Bladespire Mountains in Outland. The “official” explanation I read was that the spikes were the result of the wind in that zone. I called bullshit.

My explanation was that some sort of volcanic explosion occurred underground, creating “spikes” of lava. If wind was involved, it was only to blow away the softer soil around those spikes.

My vindication? Here we are in old Draenor, and we discover that Frostfire Ridge (the future Bladespire) is an icy wasteland punctuated by volcanic activity. BOOOM! And cold weather quickly freezes the lava.
On another note … My warlock has gained almost two full levels entirely from hitting up the Midsummer fires in EK, Kalimdor, and Outland. 93-95.

Warlock made another Molten Core run. Golemagg still refuses to drop her T1 robe.

Last night, when I first got to Tanaan to do my round-o-dailies, I decided to poke around the random raid finder for groups to kill the Savage Whale Shark, which drops a Naval Yard ship upgrade.

No such luck, but a Supreme Lord Kazzak raid looked interesting, so I queued and hopped the rocket that takes you directly to the Throne of Kil’Jaeden.

Pretty soon we had a full 40-player and pulled.

It turned into an old-fashioned world-boss zerg-fight: the lack of organized healing and unplanned tanking, lots of AoE boss affects, and overall unawareness of tactics, meant that everyone died at least once, but ghost-running back took less than 30 seconds. We never wiped, so it really was a zergfest.

For me, he dropped about a dozen Felblights and a trinket which, in spite of ilvl, seems to be the worst itemized epic item I’ve ever seen. WTF? Run speed, leech, and avoidance? And a big step-down in agility compared to the LFR BRF and normal Highmaul trinks I have right now.

So I’m keeping it in the bank (A) until Blizz fixes it, or (B) I decide I really don’t need to keep another example of crappy item design.

Still, a fun fight. Definitely recalled the old world-boss fights of yore. At least this Kazzak doesn’t heal himself if he kills someone, like the old one did.

That sounds like fun. The kind of raid I could get into.

Rik, thank you for the idea of using the Midsummer event to level past 90. Two birds, one stone, with the new pet this year.

It’s interesting to note the correspondences between WoD Draenor and BC Outland. Here’s an interesting Reddit article from a guy who did some careful geo-reference matching between the two maps. There are other interesting correspondences to be found here:

Draenor’s Highmaul is Outland’s Twilight Ridge. No ruins of a great ogre city in Outland, but maybe the Burning Legion cleaned up a bit before setting up their portals and such.

Dark Portals to Azgalor are in the same place. So is Skettis.

Zangarmarsh and the Zangar Sea line up pretty well.

Ashran seems to have no analogue in Outland. Spires of Arak seems to have fallen off the map as well, south of Auchindoun.

Netherwing Ledge in Outland seems to be equivalent to Darktide Roost.

Anyway, interesting.

My warlock still needs to hit up the fires in Northrend, and that might bump her past lvl 95 (she was 93, almost 94 when she started … hmmm, I may have overstated how much XP she’d gained from the fires.).

My warlock has a garrison to upgrade (when I find the time, which is scarce right now), but only had 15k gold, so I had her buy a WoW Token and post it on the AH, and that netted her another 26k. While hitting the fires in Kalimdor, I realized that, because of heirlooms, I leveled her so fast (from lvl 12* to lvl 90) during the tail end of MoP that she spent very little time in Kalimdor and had very few flight points there. It was getting painful having to manually fly around and discover all the FPs at 280% speed, so she used some of her new gold to upgrade to 310%. Ironically, I initially had planned to not bother with upgrading her flight speed or buying Pandaria flying, since it was the very tail end of MoP and there wasn’t going to be flying in Draenor. Why waste the gold?

  • I rolled this 'lock way back in 2009, played her to level 12, then basically abandoned her. I later rolled an orc warlock and got her to 62 or 63 during Cataclysm, but then I took six months off from the game at the end of Cata. When I came back for MoP, I had forgotten how to play the 'lock, and there had been a number of changes to the class (half of her spells seemed to be gone), and I found I wasn’t able to just jump in and pick up where I left off with her. So I resurrected that lvl 12 human 'lock and basically started over from almost-the-beginning, to relearn the class. I found I liked playing her so much that I never got back to the orc 'lock, who is still sitting at 63 and hasn’t gotten out of Thrallmar in Hellfire Peninsula.

I ran this last night. Pretty fun. Didn’t die except once, very early, before the 2nd boss (after clearing associated trash but before the pull).

“How do you die before the pull?”, I hear someone ask.

By not paying attention. Specifically, the 2nd boss is the Iron Reaver. Think Fel Reaver, streamlined. Think very cool mecha, unfortunately piloted by the bad guys.

Anyway, after you clear the last trash pack before the boss, he comes barreling into the courtyard and launches himself into the air. (Yes. Jump jets. Battletech meets WoW.) A circle appears on the ground.

Stupid me, looking at the circle (which I’m within) going “WTF does this circle mean?”

It means “Death From Above” as the Reaver lands inside the circle and one-shots me. Squish. Before the pull. Essentially, the Reaver’s way of saying “Howdy, I’m Iron Reaver, and I’ll be serving you flaming-hot fel-infused death this evening.”

After a mercifully brief rez-run (the instance portal is right at the edge of the courtyard), we one-shotted everything else, and I had no further deaths. But let up just one second when you think you’re safe, and BAM. Flattened huntard. :smiley:

Well, I’ve just cancelled my sub. Since the first of the year, with WoD, I’ve found I just can’t be bothered to log in most days, so why am I paying for this? Garrison chores have turned the game into a second job, and at age 49 and trying to get promoted into a management position at work, I don’t need a second job. In my comments to Blizz on why I’m cancelling, I said, “Watching YouTube has become more fun than WoW.”

Well, I’ll say I’m sorry to see you go. Sometimes I feel like there are few WoW players with a mindset like mine, and you were one of them.

But I can’t dispute your point. A lot of the content Blizz added is a bunch of not-very-WoWlike minigames that, if you allow them to, turn the game into something like a blue-collar job. “Workin’ in the coal mine, goin’ down down…” (poignantly appropriate since the garrison even has its own mine). :smiley:

Don’t be a stranger in the thread, even if you’re not playing. Or lurk. Or don’t, if you wish. Be happy with your choices! :slight_smile:

I still love the idea of WoW. I just don’t like what it’s become in WoD.

My favorite part of the game has always been questing, and at max level, that has always meant daily quests. Even if it was mindlessly knocking out the same dailies for the same factions, at least it felt like I was doing something. And, in MoP, the dailies continued to be rewarding, especially the PvP dailies on the Isle of Thunder.

In previous expansions, if I got tired of doing max-level dailies, I could level alts. I had three 80s by the end of Wrath, seven 85s by the end of Cata, and nine 90s by the end of MoP. But in WoD … if I try to level an alt, I feel like I’m “goofing off” instead of “doing my chores”.

And frankly, lately I just don’t have the energy. I’ve had maybe four days off from work in the last six weeks since my previous manager quit. In his absence, I have been the department manager in all but name (and it appears certain that I’m going to get the job officially). I’m quickly discovering just how much more there is to the job than the cooking part. Paperwork, paperwork, is there no end to paperwork?

On top of doing all of the ordering, I’m discovering just how many things my previous four managers neglected. Like, there were monthly budgets for things like dishes, silverware, kitchen utensils, etc. They had the money to spend every month (albeit a fairly small amount), and could have kept these things up by purchasing a little something each month. Instead, they just left the money unspent. So now I’m trying to rebuild all this stuff, but I don’t have any bigger budget than they did.

Then there is the difficulty in hiring staff. Being that this is a retirement home, there are stringent government rules about who can work in a place like this. Once I’ve hired somebody, they have to pass a drug test. If they pass that, they have to wait until we’ve submitted their information for a background check and gotten the “all clear”. Half the time, the delay between being hired and being able to actually start working results in them just going and accepting another offer, somewhere they can start work the next day.

Then there is a server-specific problem: You’re not going to find experienced servers who know how to provide the level of customer service this company expects when you’re offering them minimum wage and no tips. So I’m saddled with a crop of teenaged girls with little work ethic, a “special needs” lady, and an apparently-depression-suffering woman whose main virtue is that she at least shows up and does her work.

OTOH, part of my job is going into the dining room and making personal contact with each of the residents after the meals I prepare, and the vibe I’m getting from them is that things have been steadily improving since I’ve been running things.

But I’m left with little time or energy for WoW. When I finally get home from work, all I want to do is crack open a beer or 12 and stare at something on Netflix.

Sorry to see you go, Rik. Best wishes for RL success and happiness.

Attained Exalted with Arakkoa Outcasts, which gave me the level 3 Trading Post, so now I have +20% Draenor rep gain, which should let me cap rep for Draenor flying faster. It also got me another follower. Killed Terrorfist with the help of NPCs and got the Hellbane achievement. My ilvl has gone up by 15 thanks to the Tanaan upgrades; downside is I have to redo my transmogs as a lot of gear has been replaced.

I’ll probably take a break from Tanaan for a bit and finish farming dinosaur bones.

Update: I officially got the promotion today :slight_smile:

Grats on dinging! :smiley:

Let’s hope it’s no more grinding at daily quests than you already do. That’s the best kind of promotion: they elevate your title and pay to match your boss’ work that you’ve already been (secretly) doing.

Congratulations! Woot!

Forgot to mention the bad news: The same day I got the promotion, just as I was parking my car at home, I heard this loud shrieking noise under the hood of my car, my power-steering went out, and my alternator light came on. Finished parking, shut off the engine, popped the hood … and discovered that my engine’s one big belt had broken.

So I’ve had to make arrangements for a taxi to pick me up at 4:45 AM for the next few days to get to work, until I can get my car into the shop. Fortunately, unlike my past car emergencies, this happened on payday, and yesterday’s check (my final check as an hourly worker) was the biggest paycheck I’ve ever had, thanks to my recent, pre-promotion raise and all of the OT I’ve worked the last few weeks. So I should have it fixed in short order.

My main managed to get exalted across the board in Tanaan, so I have a lot less incentive to go back there now. I should grind out more Saberon claws, since I’m less than 1/3 of the way to the achievement (or 1/5 of the way to buying everything I plan to buy with them, but I guess I could do some of that on alts). And I haven’t gotten all the mounts from the Hellbane big rares. (I’m at 1/3. Got a dupe this weekend. Story of my life.)

The main also managed to get to a L3 shipyard and complete the shipyard part of the legendary quest chain.

So, I put the main back to grinding mounts and pets in old raids.

Nothing. At least, nothing I was really after. No mounts, no pets (except for dupes. WTF, RNG?)

But finishing up Black Temple, I got the main-hand Warglaive of Azzinoth to drop from Illidan. I’ve had the off-hand glaive since early MoP, so now I have a matched set.

On a hunter. :smack: Oh, well, at least it scored the guild achievement, and it’ll piss off my guild leader, who’s a hyper-competitive dude whose main is a warrior. :smiley:

Now if I could just get a Thori’dal drop… :mad:

Heh…I got Thori’dal completely by surprise the first time I soloed Sunwell Plateau. Didn’t even know there was a guild achievement until I got the shwiiiink.

I’ve been doing the daily grind out in Tanaan for several weeks now, and am running out of things to do. So far:

[ul]
[li]Exalted with all the Tanaan factions[/li][li]Most of my gear is the iLvl 695 Empowered, save for three or four items[/li][li]All the Tanaan Jungle treasures[/li][li]All three of the Hellbane rare mounts[/li][li]The 100,000 Apexis mount [/li][li]Draenor Pathfinder [/li][/ul]

I also happened to get the Mudback Riverbeast mount yesterday from a Shipyard mission - the gronnling one hasn’t popped up for me yet, but that one is BOE anyway, so I guess I can buy one if I get anxious.

I know people are saying that Tanaan Jungle is the last major patch for WoD, but how can that be true, with the expansion less than a year old? They were still introducing new stuff in MoP a few months before WoD dropped. They haven’t so much as announced the name of the next expansion, let alone a time frame. It just doesn’t make sense that there won’t be a 6.3 in a few months.