Warlords of Draenor: WoW General Discussion thread 10/13/2014

Alliance, right? Go to this guy in the War Room of Stormwind Keep with 10g. His name is Behsten and apparently he’s some kind of rogue, because he appears to be pretty ghostly and hard to find.

When you want to turn XP back on, talk to the same guy with another 10g.

I had to find him when I wanted to start playing an alt that, ages ago, my son (who shared the account) had XP-locked for twinkage purposes.

Not really. I have certain zones that I like more than others, and some that I downright dislike (not a big fan of Darkshore). But I’m doing them all.

I just yesterday realized one big difference between E.K. and Kalimdor, for Alliance anyway: Kalimdor has a lot more zones. In E.K., humans and dwarves have unique default progressions to level 35, and then both come together in the Plaguelands, with W.Plaguelands being the only level 35-40 zone on the continent. Kalimdor, OTOH, has at least two zones in each level range past 30. After Teldrassil/Bloodmyst, it goes Darkshore -> Ashenvale to get to 25, but after that there are multiple options. Looks like this toon is going to stay level 35 a lot longer than I anticipated.

I went ahead and joined a guild on the “project toon”. <This Thing of Ours> on the Dalaran server.

Hi

I ask because now I am skinning in the 600’s and I’m already a Zen Master in that and Cooking.

I mean, other than selling - what’s the incentive to advance? Skinning still has exotic leather as the main drop.

Cooking? Yeah I have a few new recipes But again no incentive to reaching 700.

I know: “When the new XPak comes out, you’ll be that much ahead, Bill”.

I sent a suggestion to WoW to at least add some new leather and maybe call it “All-Weather Leather” or something cute like that, and at least make it worth one’s while, but as y’all know, Blizz never answers to suggestions.

Your thoughts?

Thanks

Quasi

Well, my reason for pushing through the professions climb in each expansion pack is that being able to manufacture your own good gear is a huge advantage.

My main, a hunter, fabricated two pieces of mail armor and a gun for himself in the first weeks of WoD. (Leatherworker/Engineer). They were almost the best pieces of gear you could get in the entire game until you could get into the Highmaul raid, and with incremental upgrades they’re still some of the best non-raid gear in the entire game at the moment.

I have an entire network of alts on the same server and faction who are all max profession skill in every profession, for the sole reason of mutual logistical support.

I neglected to address one of your observations, and I don’t have enough edit time left on my previous post to do a decent job, so I’ll be gauche and reply a second time to your post.

The current skinning drop/leatherworking input is “Raw Beast Hide”. You don’t get Exotic Leather in Draenor. That’s a Pandaria drop. So, in a sense, Blizzard has done what you suggested, though not with your catchy name (their loss). :smiley:

I have a bunch of alts that I use mostly for professions. Not only is it nice to be able to manufacture your won ilvel 705 weapons, selling the various upgrade items has earned me an enormous pile of gold.

I don’t know about skinning, mind you; it’s the only profession I haven’t capped on any character. I think that skinning beasts in Tanaan has a chance to yield felblight (an ingredient in mighty and savage upgrade items), but I don’t know how good the drop rate is.

My skinning 700 alt didn’t get it until after hitting level 100, and specifically after Tanaan. Skinning isn’t the kind of thing I grind out, and there aren’t enough many animals to kill for quests while leveling to do the trick, but a few days of gathering fangs for the Tanaan Saberstalker quest did the trick.

Not a great drop rate; not one I’d count on, unless I was desperate to create a Mighty or Savage ugrade and was just a few felblights short. At that, I think I enjoy fishing for them more.

TBH, I don’t skin for the skins so much, since my leatherworking main has a Lev 3 Farm in his garrison and it takes about 1/2 hour of trap-farming Nagrand to fill the queues, after which I’ll have more hides that I can use. (Plus not enough Savage Blood, since I still have alts with un-maxed manufactured items.)

UPDATE:

“Phase One” is complete!

Aedrah has fully explored every single Old World zone, on foot/ground mount — no finishing up with a flying mount after hitting 60! In fact, I made sure I finished exploring Blasted Lands on the ground before I even learned to fly.

She has also done every quest in the Old World, with a couple exceptions. I gave up on the “Alliance Trauma” quest in Theramore, the one where you have to perform triage on a room full of injured soldiers. Something was buggy. I had “friendly nameplates” turned on, but they failed to appear on many of the soldiers, so it became impossible to keep track of who needed my attention first. I also skipped some of the “go talk to X in dungeon Y” breadcrumbs, as well as the dungeon quests in any dungeon I haven’t entered/completed. Otherwise, I’ve done every repeatable quest at least once, the lone exception being the “More Spice Bread” cooking daily in Darnassus - that one just hasn’t happened to come up when I’ve been in Darnassus. Nevertheless, Aedrah had completed 1,818 quests before heading to Outland. I also made sure that I read every single quest, and every bit of “gossip” text. I should mention that when I say “every quest”, I mean it. I didn’t stop in each zone after getting the [Zonename Quests] achievement; I continued on until I fully completed the zone.

She just finished leveling Archaeology to 300 today, so she’s hitting Outland with every profession at 300 (except cooking - just gonna wait to level that in Pandaria). I tried to get every profession to 300 without using Outland mats, but I “cheated” for the final 7 points of Mining skill. At 290 Mining, literally everything goes gray except for Rich Thorium Veins, and those were “green”. I gave up after an hour of circling Silithus hoping for Rich Thorium and getting only a grand total of 3 skill points. Ended up just buying 20 Fel Iron Ore and smelting them. That got me exactly the 7 points I needed

Anyway, it’s been a lot of fun so far. I was surprised by how much of the Cataclysm Old World revamp I hadn’t seen. I’ve done the Eastern Kingdoms Alliance progression multiple times, but I had seen very little of the Kalimdor Alliance stuff. Mainly because I hate Darkshore so much that the few night elves and draenei I’ve rolled since Cataclysm have just hopped over to EK ASAP.

Now to do this all again on a Horde toon …

Bumping this thread in case anyone missed the recent news. The new expansion, Legion, will be launching August 30th, 2016. That means that patch 6.2 will last 14 months, making it roughly a tie with the 14 month draught at the end of Pandaria. No official word on the pre-expansion patch, but most people seem to be guessing one month before launch.

I just recently came back for the third time, mostly to level a some alts. I’m still on the fence over pre-ordering Legion. On one hand, it’s early access to the demon hunter. On the other hand, Boredlords of Failmore sucked, and I’ve lost a lot of faith in Blizzard after how they’ve (not) supported it. Part of me thinks I should wait and see what actually goes down.

So is anyone else excited/raging/meh over the new expansion?

I’m waiting to figure out if I can afford a new computer before I think about buying Legion.
I decided to have a little bit of fun with that good ol’ TBC questing that everybody on the official forums is so nostalgic for, and wrote a totally-not-sarcastic post about one of the finest quest chains TBC had to offer:

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That brings me to Anchorite Ahuurn, at Telredor in Zangarmarsh. Let’s look at this so-brilliant-we-want-it-back quest line.

The Boha’mu RuinsThe Boha'mu Ruins - Quest - World of Warcraft
Ahuurn wants to make friends, erm, “redeem” the Feralfen “Lost Ones”. He’s heard they’ve moved into the Boha’mu ruins, and would like you to check it out for him. So far, so good.

Except that the only way to actually get credit for “exploring” the ruins is to run right into the main chamber, close enough to the very Feralfen guy you eventually need to speak with that you can’t help aggroing the guy, meaning that you have to kill him to get away. Great start! Fortunately, he had already been killed by a previous helpful adventurer, so this wasn’t a problem for me.

Idols of the FeralfenIdols of the Feralfen - Quest - World of Warcraft
Now that you’ve confirmed that the ruins are occupied, Ahuurn would like to learn more about them, these people he would like to befriend. And what better way to do that than by stealing their most holy objects? Of course, it unsurprisingly turns out that the Feralfen have serious objections to this, and you’re naturally going to have to kill a number of them in order to collect the six identical idols (wouldn’t one have been enough?) Praise the Light, and Pass the Ammunition, Anchorite!

Gathering the ReagentsGathering the Reagents - Quest - World of Warcraft
After carefully studying these bird-shaped idols, Anchorite Ahuurn comes to the startling conclusion that the Feralfen worship bird spirits! Deciding it would be helpful in establishing communications with the Feralfen, Ahuurn decides to use a potion to disguise you as a ghosty Arakkoa. Alas, he doesn’t have the necessary reagents on hand (surprise) and needs you to collect them from the local fauna. Said fauna includes the local Fen Striders, who just happen to spawn miles away from each other and drop the necessary tentacles at a rate of 19%. Fen Strider Tentacle - Item - World of Warcraft

40 minutes later, you have everything you need, and return to Ahuurn, who makes the aforementioned potion.

Messenger to the FeralfenMessenger to the Feralfen - Quest - World of Warcraft

And now, all is ready! You travel the 1,000 yards back to the Boha’mu Ruins (for the third time), take the potion, and introduce yourself to Elder Kuruti of the Feralfen.

Who basically tells you to bugger off.

Success!

Blizzard we need more of this! TBC was clearly the high point of WoW!

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Naturally, the official forumites completely missed my point. sigh

Original thread here

I decided to level a character to 20 for the Hearthstone portrait, and hit the free-to-play level cap this morning. I also had my first PvP encounter, which ended with the three would-be gankers getting beaten to death by a tree.

I’m looking forward to Legion. My main is a Belf combat rogue, and so she’ll be changing to the Outlaw spec. It sounds like a lot of fun. I’d like to see how the PvP talent system works, too.

I’ve been leveling an Alliance paladin, so for the first time, I’ll get to see both factions’ sides of a new expansion. I didn’t run her through all quests/all zones/all factions to exalted like I did my main, but she’s managed to get to level 93 while still in Pandaria. The power of obsessive herb gathering and mining on rested xp. :slight_smile:

Indeed. Like the Lvl 100 Pandaren who still hasn’t chosen Horde or Alliance and is still living on the Wandering Isle. And still dinged 100, with gathering tradeskills and pet dailies.

Some would take this as evidence that it’s way too easy to level in modern WoW.

They could argue that, but they’d be wrong. Any player can harvest an herb or ore node, but few can do it for the +200 days /played he did. This is, after all, the same crowd that complains about killing 8 tigers or finding 12 seeds all the time.

I love what Doubleagent did because that’s exactly the kind of thing I would entertain doing.

Has anyone gotten a beta invite for Legion? I just checked my email about 15 minutes ago and apparently I did. Downloading now.

Yep, I found the option to download the beta on my launcher this morning and then saw the email from Blizz. This is the first beta for Blizz that I’ve ever been in and I’ve been playing since Vanilla (with a small break for the first bit of Cata).

I’m going to start trying the new stuff out after raid tonight.

There’s something seriously busted --either with travel times, or my level of knowledge-- in Kalimdor. I want to run all my characters through the Vortex Pinnacle. But, excluding my mage, who can teleport to Theramore, everyone else appears in Darnassus and it takes (real-time) about 20 minutes to fly from Darnassus to Uldum.

Please tell me that I’m missing something and this idiotic time-waster isn’t a “feature”. Is there a way to easily get from Draenor to the southern end of Kalimdor?

You don’t have the portal from Stormwind to Uldum?

Lacking that, you can go to Dalaran and take a portal from there to the Caverns of Time, and from there it’s a short hop to Uldum. (Portal is in the Violet Citadel; run past Rhonin, up the stairs, and it’s on the left.)

Me:

I finally have a third level 100 toon, my warlock. She hit 100 partway through Gorgrond, largely due to the fact that I didn’t even bring her to Draenor until level 92 or 93, and she picked up a lot of XP doing other things (though I can’t recall what).

Legion beta spoiler…

Why does the phrase “Warchief Sylvanas” make my blood run cold?

Where is it? Is it near the Pandarian place in Stormwind under the big hot air balloon? Or…?

Also, I’m doing my first Horde character. Why do all these other low-level horde types (level 15-ish) have motorcycles? I thought you weren’t able to ride until level 30. I want a motorcycle. I hate moving so damned slow. LET ME FLY! :wink:

That timewalking stuff. Can someone point me to the first quest string so I can start trying it? I don’t know where to start and every guide I’ve found contradicts every other guide.