Was Europe (1500-1789) a black civilisation?

And yet, by your “theory”, they cowered in fear at the idea that their white subjects would overthrow and kill them because they were black. So they hid their blackness behind makeup and altered portraits.

Were they so proud of their heritage that they commissioned religious icons with their natural skintones, or were they so fearful of being found out to be black that they actually had portraits repainted with lighter skin?

Darwin just powered half of England with his spinning.

Then why are the images in the Sistine Chapel so overwhelmingly white?

If you are suggesting a post-Renaissance infusion of Africans into the European ruling social strata, I’d think you would have some documentation other than some poor photos of less-than-masterful *objets d’art *that look like they might represent black people.

Touche.

My God, why am I replying to this thread? Tell me, father, am I going to Hell?

Paintings featuring Jesus from the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries by El Greco, Rembrandt, Rubens, and others. None of the Jesuses in these paintings look black.

You’re going to have to explain how white people can go to the beach, then.

I agree on both of these points, but your interpretations of history don’t make sense.

Yeah, like the Indians were the first Americans.
The black Europeans (43000 years ago), most likely a minority took power in 1500Why do I believe this?
I studied Paul Kaplan, The Rise of the Black Maji in Western Art. (1996)
I consider this work as ideologically racist, but I have no million dollars to do this research myself.

http://images.google.nl/images?hl=nl&source=hp&q=saint%20maurice&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

In 1120 Saint Maurice was suddenly shown as a classical African. Why?
One of the Maji became the black king Balthazar, young, well dressed and bringing gold. Why?
By 1500 this concept was all over Europe and the colonies, and had started between 1200-1300 in Southern Europe and Bohmenia. Why? Why there?
Some parts of europe had greater numbers black and coloured people.
Blacks somehow kept a connection to Africa and the Middle east and had science and civilisation. Returning knights had military prowess. This combination made them powerfull. This resulted in the renaissance.
The black king in Adoration scenes should be viewed as Morgan Freeman preparing us for barack Obama in movies.
Untill then black meant heathen and muslim, enemies of christian Europe.
There was a need to show blacks as good christians, hence yhe presence at the beginning of chrisyianity and the black saint maurice.
My theory is a theory and part hypothesis.
I do not claim to have all the answers.

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Paintings featuring Jesus from the 16th, 17th, and 18th centuries by El Greco, Rembrandt, Rubens, and others. None of the Jesuses in these paintings look black.

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Look for images of black Jesusses, dear.

Some can’t, unless they wear a strong sunblock. Those are closer to ther classical albino ancestors.

Others who are darker can face the sun, bare faced.

Dear, bless your heart, I could not believe my own findings. But after three years, I had to trust in myself. We need to end white supremacy and racism.

A black Jesus. There are many, I will show them. look for Russian Icons
There are also many blue Jesus’. blue blood is black blood
Sistine Chapel might have been overpainted. When did they add the loin clothes?
But whites had to be placated, to give legitimacy to black rule too.

You said the elite had no use for a white god or Jesus, so explain why there are white Jesuses from that period.

Again, if there were that many albinos it would be reflected in the historical record.

That’s because they’re garbage. :wink:

Let the idea sink in.
Leading up to the french revolution when they struggled for dear life they resorted to paint themselves white. It was an older practice but now taken up by the lot. Suggesting equality while the citizins were gunning for them.

There was no tv, the few times the nation got to see the king, he painted himself white, and one was not allowed to look them in the eys. They appeared as deities in splendid gold and diamons, in gold carroages, sitting in golden rooms.

You are supposed to be the moderator yet you start with insults setting a standard for the rest.

HUMAN ALBINISM

http://static.open.salon.com/files/snowflake_21239184887.jpg

[SNOWFLAKE: an albino gorilla]

white rose, dark rose
white digitales, red digitales
white mice, black mice
white cat, black cat
white gorilla, black gorilla,
white man, black man

whites are albino’s and albino descendents. No disrespect intended. albino’s are not sick, just have to stay out of the sun. we do not put a higher value on a white cat over a black cat. why do we do with humans?

I did not insult you. I made a comment about your argument, and what I said has been obvious since your first few posts.

I encourage you to read the rules of this site and this forum.

Dear, I feel insulted and ask you politely to sees from putting up this as an example. It greatly diminishes my pleasure in talking with all of you.

Have to go!

I wouldn’t have thought “Your argument is garbage” was an acceptable comment in GD myself.

I don’t know what others think.

C’est la vie. Meanwhile please stop calling my dear. My girlfriend would not appreciate it and neither do I.

Take it to ATMB if you want to discuss it.

Wrong. And I think at this point I’m going to let this thread die the death it deserves. I suggest others do as well. This guy isn’t interested in any debate, and we’ve rebutted all of his claims many times over.

If I’d wanted to do that, I’d have took it to ATMB. I was just making a comment, as I am here.

Get all snarky about it, if that’s how you feel - you know where the Pit is.