Which one of those prime ministers got the position via a general election?
In Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960-2010, Charles Murray writes that a big change among white Americans was the acceptance of men, particularly young men, not working. I remember hearing a story about my aunt and her first husband living with my grandparents for a short period of time. The guy wasn’t looking for a job and when he made it clear that he didn’t intend to look my grandfather kicked him out. (This happened in the 70s shortly before I was born.)
My same aunt has a child who must be in his mid 30s by now who hasn’t worked in years and I’m not sure he ever had a full time job in his entire life. He’s lived with her continuously his entirely life even moving halfway across the country with her when she retired. I don’t ever see him getting married (who would take him?), and I’m not sure what he’s going to do when his mother dies.
I went to get my undergraduate degree a little later in life, I graudated in 2008, and one thing I noticed was the lack of young men who participated in more community oriented extra curricular activities. I was part of the history club, vice president actually, but despite roughly 50% of the history majors being men I was the only one who ever did anything with the club. We’d organize activities, you didn’t have to be a member of the club to go, and I’d be the lone male student in a sea of coeds.
So, yeah, there’s something wrong with a large group of young men today. I feel as if some of them just don’t see a bright future for themselves and when you’re in despair why not try something radical like fascism or communism? The current system isn’t working for you, so why not?
What I’ve said in another thread is it is not misogyny directly. It is the likability penalty. In short, leadership qualities are seen as a positive in men and negative in women. So the more presidential she acted, the more people that wanted to vote against her.
Two (Thatcher and May), and the former won 3 elections.
I’m not @Odesio.
But I suspect their point is that the UK election process does not have the whole electorate voting directly for PM. Only the folks in that MP’s riding actually voted for Thatcher or May.
So there could be a vast reservoir of misogyny in the country at large that wouldn’t be apparent in the election results.
I have no opinion on how correct @Odesio is or isn’t as to either the facts or the logic. But I’m pretty sure that was their point.
Bingo. We here in the US tend to equate a prime minister to our president, and while there are apt comparisons to be made there are also stark differences.
To be honest I think it’s a distinction without much difference.
How many Americans vote in the primaries, plus you have conventions like no-one opposing the incumbent.
And while it used to be about just voting for a president, the US appears to have become very partisan and hence why the blowout “almost won every state” elections are a thing of the past – 40% of the country will never vote republican and 40% will never vote democrat.
I don’t know why it’s so difficult for people to accept that literally everyone hates inflation, white people, black people, Asians, eskimoes, refrigerator repairmen, even literal drug addicts are all united in their dislike of inflation.
That was the only reason needed.
Then they shouldn’t have voted for more of it.
You dont have to tell me, I voted for Harris. Akm I’m saying is most people aren’t going to dig into the fine nuances of the global supply chain and the Federal Reserve.
All they know is eggs costs 8 and under Trump they cost 5 dollars and that really sucks… or at least this is what I prefer to think ober evetyone who didnt vote like me is a bigot
If they voted for Trump, they support bigotry. If they didn’t realize that then that makes them stupid or willfully blind, but they still voted for bigotry. And for more inflation.
Also, voting to hurt and kill people out of greed just makes them more vile, not less.
Yeah, prices genuinely were lower, and various other things quite possibly better, during Trump’s presidency than during Biden’s. I don’t believe this is because of Trump or Biden, and it’s a fair guess that Trump will make things worse during his second term. But it’s no surprise that so many of the common clay (“you know… morons”) don’t realize that. Trump and the Republicans have done a better job at pretending to be populist and care about the working people.
There are no nuances here. None. When your car is on fire, you don’t worry about the air pressure in the tires.
Well eggs might come down in price because their price increase wasn’t just inflation but also bird flu.
It’s crazy those people that blamed this all on democrats. What were they supposed to do, squeeze more eggs out of the non-culled chickens? Show them motivational videos?
I hear this reason quite a bit but I have never heard exactly what Trump would plan to do to counter inflation. All I ever heard him mention is “tax imports” which anyone and everyone with knowledge on the subject says would have the opposite effect.
Was it as simple as “well, neither seems to have any real plan at all so might as well give the other one a try”.
What exactly do people think he’s going to do to magically bring down prices besides him saying he is going to?
It largely comes down to this: if voters think the economy is bad under the current administration, they aren’t going to vote to re-elect the current administration. There’s not a lot more thought going on than that.
Also, I’d wager that the large majority of voters are extremely low-information voters, and if they even heard Trump say, “I’ll fix this with tariffs!,” they probably didn’t hear the experts saying, “tariffs don’t work that way.”
I also believe the rise in consumer prices was a huge issue. But does this mean Trump will lose popularity if prices don’t come down? I doubt it. Because I think Cult of Personality was also a big factor in this win.
“I hear this reason quite a bit but I have never heard exactly what Trump would plan to do to counter inflation. All I ever heard him mention is “tax imports” which anyone and everyone with knowledge on the subject says would have the opposite effect.”
I won’t make the case that people are “right” for blaming inflation on Biden, again I voted for Harris.
I think it literally comes down to “Eggs under Biden 8 dollars = bad,” and “Eggs under Trump 5 dollars = good.”
Call them ignorant, stupid, short sighted, etc but they’re not necessarily all racist and misogynistic. Maybe they were just really bad in economics class.
You’re assuming they even had any education in economics beyond the checkbook-balancing level.
1-Some just won’t vote for a woman of colour. Black man, yes, but woman? No
2-The message was “dont vote for trump, he’s bad and unqualified, a traitor and a criminal”. But no message about why you SHOULD vote for Harris other than “she’s not him”.
3-VP debate. While I feel Walz did a much better job, Vance didn’t make a complete fool of himself like Trump did in the presidential debate.
4-People can be very stupid at times.