WAS Trump actually mocking that disabled reporter?

Try watching the video with sound off and pretending you don’t know the context. His flopping, violently shaking hands are very different from the stiff, palms-out, waving horizontally hands of someone mocking a distressed/frightened person. I suppose you could, very charitably, allow that he might not be consciously mocking the reporter for his disability, but I think it’s stretching things.

If we mean the video posted by Nylock upthread, I think that’s actually pretty compelling evidence for the “he was mocking the reporter” side. I find it hard to believe any the supposed “other instances” shown there would be considered even close to the mocking incident except for someone who was desperately looking for this to not be mocking. They have only the vaguest of similarities. Heck, watch that video with the sound off, and for many of them you often won’t notice the supposed “identical” gesture at all. You certainly wouldn’t miss it in the mocking incident.

ETA: Ninja’d several hours ago. I missed that before I posted.

I’d love to see him have to try.

No, he’d screw it up somehow and then there’d be literal shit everywhere rather than just metaphorical.

That said, there’s no way to know 100% (his explanation after the fact isn’t reliable as he lies all the time about everything), but to me it looks as though he’s mocking a disability.

Ditto. I’m astonished that anyone doesn’t see it.

So what if he used those mannerisms in the past? In this case, he was KNOWINGLY using it in imitation of a man with CP.

Friggin’ in the riggin’
Friggin’ in the riggin’
Friggin’ in the riggin’
There was fuck-all else to do!

En fin! :slight_smile:

If he wasn’t mocking the poor man, what was he doing?

He knew the guy. This wasn’t a coincidence.

“In an interview on Thursday, Mr. Kovaleski said that he met with Mr. Trump repeatedly when he was a reporter for The Daily News covering the developer’s business career in the late 1980s, before joining The Post. “Donald and I were on a first-name basis for years,” Mr. Kovaleski said. “I’ve interviewed him in his office,” he added. “I’ve talked to him at press conferences. All in all, I would say around a dozen times, I’ve interacted with him as a reporter while I was at The Daily News.””

To think he mocked a physical disability of a reporter and his cult denies it. The video shows it all. This country is in BIG TROUBLE. Putin now has his man on the inside.

This is compelling evidence that he was indeed not mocking the reporter’s disability.

Of course, many Trump haters are saying “It doesn’t matter because it is so juvenile, etc.” Fine, so start calling him juvenile, but stop with the fucking nonsense that he was mocking the reporter’s disability.

No, I don’t think he was mocking the reporter for his disability. I despise Trump by the way.

I’ve seen him use the same mannerisms when imitating other people. He’s juvenile and a bully but was not mocking the reporter specifically for his disability. There’s no shortage of awful when it comes to Trump, so there’s really no need to be reaching for more.

So he can be an ass to anybody. Your point? Was he not mocking all of these people? Was he not then also mocking the disabled reporter?

Why* are you?*

I had a witty response, but this is Great Debates so I don’t want to hijack the thread with my nonsense.:frowning:

Seems to me like it was a Freudian slip

Oh come on. So if I accuse someone of hating black people and you point out that they generally hate everyone, I can still be right since someone that hates everyone by definition hates black people?

Just admit you got this one wrong.

Firstly the distinction here is important, as most sources I’ve seen just say “Trump mocked a disabled reporter”. You can argue that the implication is that they mean mocked his disability, but you can’t say their claim is incorrect.

Secondly add me to the people who do think he was mocking the disability as part of his caricature.
He may be flapping his hands but he’s also twisting them in an unusual way that seems to me different to the other videos shared.

I love witty responses. PM me!

Nope. Trump’s mockery was intentional, and he was lying about not knowing the guy. Why don’t you admit you’re wrong.