Are we certain that Luke’s real arm was re-attatched? It might have been a prosthesis.
Maybe replacement arms weren’t as good in Anakin’s time as they became in his son’s. By Luke’s time, they could have perfected prosthetic limbs to the point where they look, and feel real.
“If he spent any more time fighting Yoda, he would have been surrounded by soldiers.”
I don’t quite buy this. All he needed to do was zap Yoda while he was concentrating on saving the two. It would only have taken a few seconds and he could still have escaped.
The way that Palpatine forces Yoda to use the clone army is a stroke of genius. Consider the politics of the situation. The Senate has authorized the army, but there would still be widespread opposition to it, and even many of Palpatine’s supporters would be uneasy with the situation.
But now they hear that Yoda took the army into battle, and it saved the Jedi from being massacred!
Well now, they’ll think, this clone army can’t be that bad if the Jedi are willing to use it.
It’s a massive PR coup for Palpatine, and it’s freakin’ brilliant, in an evil way.
Uh, Luke never lost an arm, just a hand. And they showed a clear shot of his new mechanical hand at the end of Empire Strikes Back.
Luke’s hand was never reattached-it was a prosthetic. If look in Return of the Jedi, during the fight with Jabba’s thugs, someone shoots him in the wrist and shorts out the power supply.
This is utterly ridiculous. Just because he says that doesn’t mean he can’t be skilled with a light saber. Yoda didn’t base his self worth on how good he was with a saber . Yoda being crazy good with a light saber in no way cheapens him or the original movies or does it undo what he said. Anyone saying that it does because of that specific quote is REACHING so far it’s cringworrhy. Yoda can be good with a light saber and still make that statement. Period.
Well I guess that settles that! Exclamation mark!
Zombie, this thread is.
OK, we’re way into zombie territory here, but I want to offer some thoughts.
A zen master - I’ve been studying for the last several years - would disarm the situation with a well-placed word that makes the opponent think about things. These guys are scary good at that.
In terms of Yoda fighting…that he WAS fighting could be seen as a failure. In both his confrontation with Dooku and eventually with Palpatine his decision to fight has disastrous consequences. Yes, Yoda is wise and knowledgeable. But there’s an argument to be made that Luke is the strongest jedi. Luke is the one who trusted in the force enough that when confronted with Vader and Palpatine - the very embodiment of the dark side and people against whom he had some pretty personal grudges - he elected NOT to fight. He approached Vader on Endor believing he should not fight and he only struck at Palpatine after enormous goading. Even after that, he found his wisdom and refused to strike down Vader. Luke swung back and forth but in the end trusted the force enough to allow things to play out without giving in.
I don’t remember him light saber fighting in Empire Strikes Back.
He didn’t. I don’t know what the heck this thread is about. Some sort of mass hallucination or something.
Also, while a light saber has the advantage whilst fighting zombies of never getting stuck in a body, it has the disadvantage of requiring you to be very close to the zombies and yet doesn’t really give you any means of pushing them back while you slice them up. Seems dangerously likely to end up with you being bit by a dismembered zombie and being infected. Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
Interesting reading this thread 15 years, two cartoon series and four movies later.
No it didn’t cheapen him. Jedi wield lightsabers and with Yoda being a jedi master it was a logical conclusion. The duels were the redeeming quality of the prequel trilogies. They should have done the same for Luke in TLJ.
Edit: Uhg, I didn’t realize the age of this thread.
Agreed! Let’s just see how much has changed…
Those Special Editions sure were weird weren’t they?
Still true after all these years. See: The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi
Remember how big the Matrix movies were? This was a legit concern.
This is my favorite random statement of the thread. You would have been laughed off the website if you said "Hey, in 15 years this will be true because Diseny is BUYING STAR WARS.
This quote is every SW nerd in the last 20 years.
End with something semi-serious. I am in the “whatever” camp when it comes to the prequels, but this is the one thing I never get over. I hate, hate HATE how he talks in the prequels. I would say only about 25% of his speech is backwards in Empire and Jedi, but in the prequels it’s every. damn. line.
Drives me nuts.
Of course, you know why the series started with Episode IV.
Because in charge of numbering Yoda was.
No, it showed him for the truly badass great warrior Luke was looking for on Dagobah.
NAH, Jar Jar is my homie. Ep 1 would have been too dry with out some bit of comic relief in there. F the JJ haters.
I’m not sure how anything in Star Wars could be “cheapened.” It’s not like it was ever high art to begin with, later co-opted by crass commercialism. The crass commercialism was there from day one. The wisdom spouted by Yoda in ESB and ROTJ is barely fortune-cookie level, so it’s not like he’s some philosophical titan degraded by special effects.
I guess I would have thought that if the Force was as mystical and universal as described by Obi-Wan and Yoda in the original films, then a sufficiently advanced practitioner wouldn’t need to get into physical fights of any kind. Similarly, once Neo becomes “the one” at the end of The Matrix, you’d think fighting would be beneath him, even boring to him, and he could destroy agents at will just by deleting or rewriting their “code.”
Turns out mind-battles don’t sell tickets, I gather.
Did everyone miss the part where he fails to kill the emperor in the senate fight…and at theend he goes to Dagobah to "meditate on the mistakes of the jedi "
Also the prequels were always there in the background …read the novelization of ROTJ … in the movie it just shows a scene of Vader kneeling before palpatine in the chamber on death star two for about a minute
In the novel he keeps him there for like a half hour because he can while his mind wanders back to the beginning and pretty much very vaguely sums up the prequels plots in three medium sized paragraphs
Ah, Cring Worrhy. Wasn’t he the old guy that had to tidy away the severed limbs at the end of each day at the Jedi Academy? He’d wave them about and pretend to strangle himself with them comically, and the Jedi would roll their eyes and mutter, “That’s Cring Worrhy”. He’s got his own 12 issue comic series now.
Jar-Jar gets much better once you start thinking of him as being played by an eight-year-old girl.