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Hillary’s repeated failure to become POTUS can be blamed on Hillary. She’s just not a very likable candidate. Sucks to be her.
No wonder so many people on this board think you are stupid; you have so much trouble understand the written word.
I never said that you need to “tolerate the intolerant”. That stupid statement is all yours. You can choose to tolerate or not tolerate anyone you like. That’s my point, dumbass.
If you choose to be intolerant of a bigot, say, just understand that you, yourself, are being a bigot (by definition, one you have already taken credit for). Perhaps you feel that is fine, since you are just being bigoted towards the “right kind of people”. The trouble with this attitude is that those who you are being a bigot towards are likely to hold the same opinion; that makes it a zero-sum game.
If you fail to see your own bigotry, then the signals you are sending out is “I feel bigotry is bad, but only when others do it. It’s OK when I do it”. The old “The end justifies the means” argument. My experience tells me it is best to just avoid situations where such arguments are needed.
That reminds me of an old friend who used to like to tell me that, unlike most people, he didn’t feel that he was better than anyone else. The implication being that made him better than most everyone else. After several years, I finally called him out on it, pointing out to him his implied hypocrisy. Not only did that get him to stop this behavior, but also humbled him as he began to see other opinions he held (some that could be considered racist today) that were flawed.
I agree, it can be difficult to tolerate those things you do not agree with, especially those things that are directly against your deeply-held beliefs. But, it is necessary if you are to have an open mind. You don’t have like or agree with them, but to shut them out, to not even allow their voices to be heard, to disenfranchise them, is not the proper response.
An old man told me many years ago, probably before you were born, that I needed to listen to everybody. Not that I needed to believe everything anyone said, but to listen. A lot of them are full of crap and will try to convince me of things that are wrong, but, he said, everyone out there knows something that I don’t know and that I would be better off if I was to learn it. That won’t happen if I don’t listen.
So, BigT, if you still think that spouting off ignorant phrases like “tolerate the intolerant” makes your point, go ahead. You want to shut out or shout down the voice of anyone who disagrees with you, go ahead. You want to argue with a fencepost, go ahead. I can say that I have learned some things I didn’t know from you, so you will still have that.
Since when does likeability have anything to do with getting elected president?
Are you kidding? A lot.
“Democrats have gotten so used to saying stuff like ‘red state voters are stupid’ that we don’t even get how stuck up and terrible that sounds to anybody with good sense. That elitist attitude may have cost us the Rust Belt. And this election.”
Seriously? Is reality a second language for you?
How do you irritate a Trump supporter?
Exist.
I’m baffled as to how anyone can find Trump likable or charismatic. The man is a pig.
I wouldn’t say that. Pigs are intelligent and they have feelings.
Even Madonna, far from a fan of his presidency and who’s said she feels like someone died since he got elected, has found Trump to be likable and charismatic in person.
I’m told Hitler had friends, loved dogs and was fond of children.
Out of curiosity…how many Trump supporters do you interact with in person on a daily basis?
You’re right. I will revise.
“I’m baffled as to how anyone can find Trump likable or charismatic. The man is a Republican.”
Seriously? Who had the lower likeability rating, Hillary or Trump? We are in a post-likeable political reality.
Hahahaha. Lower according to whom? The polls? According to the polling companies who seem to have recently trashed their own reputations by incorrectly guessing who will win elections? Claims of likability made in February, or July, or October were never vetted (ie no actual election results to back them up). The majority of current polls available on November 7th pointed to a Hillary win (landslide?), and that Hillary was more likable with likely voters. It appears that the polls were wrong.
The bottom line was that Hillary didn’t get the voter turn out she needed in order to become the next POTUS.
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You know who else had friends, loves dogs, is fond of children, and was never elected leader of their country? Hillary Clinton. 
Too soon. :mad:
But funny never the less. 
Yet she got a larger voter turnout than Donald Trump. In an electoral college system, likeability no longer has much to do with who gets elected.
Of course it does! Why do you think the pluralities that create the EC vote happen?
Since you mangled your quote of what I said, I will let you correct it before responding.