Says you. 
And again, I NEVER claimed to speak for all Libs. I speak for myself. If anyone agrees, all the better. I say Lib is a troll with his lying username. Dispute THAT, mf.
You really are being quite wilfully dumb if you believe that Lib is even vaguely trying to confuse people into thinking that he represents you in some way. The whole point of the name change was to highlight the enormous differences between his beliefs and what pass for modern “liberalism”. You’d have to be a complete fucking moron not to understand this.
Eh? Oh.
Behold, for I have done counting!
16 posts in this thread clearly disagree with you.
2 posts agree, not including your own.
Everyone else didn’t give their opinion.
So it seems you’re right. The consensus, in fact, seems to be that people really don’t care enough to give an opionion. After that there’s the subset that think you’re wrong, though that’s still eight times as many posts as those that agree. So it’s not just me saying it, it would seem.
Look at the title! Look at your OP, where you suggest he change his name “to quit offending those of us who revel in the title of liberal”. You’re assuming and taking offense on behalf of other people.
I can’t dispute it, alas. But I can of course say you’re an asshat, although I wouldn’t dream of making up a false consensus of it. That would just be silly.
Besides the cryptic, non-pertaining-to first response to the OP (me…)
Mr. Lib never ONCE responded in context to me. He made a lot of jokes… and [mis]quoted some historical figures… but never ONCE did he directly respond to me. 
Mr. Liberal (and this is the LAST time i quote this POS’s name…), MR. L, are you going to change your name or what? I mean… this is really a chance for you to redeem yourself. To restore whatever good name you had in the past. Do you have the balls to own up to your position? Or are you going to continue with your pathetic joke against real liberals?
“Only her trolldresser can tell…”
Jesus Christ! You’re like the baseball stats guys, screaming about fucking OPS! STFU!
I think you picked a pretty funny and ironic way of putting it. Eugenics has always been done by people that were convinced that they knew what was best for everyone else, if only they had the power… Lib’s ideal government would never be responsible for such a thing, whereas the sort of authoritarian government (modern American term) liberals advocate very well could.
And I’m not sure you understand the view of most libertarians. “Fuck the rest” isn’t some gleeful part of their ideals - they feel that a reduced government ultimately leads to the most benefit for the most people. I would even guess that most libertarian types are more generous than average as far as charity and such, but that’s just based on my personal experiences.
But it is very typical of you to assume that people who don’t share your enlightened plans for a world full of hippy goodness and free cookies actually stomp puppies and burn orphanges.
You’re starting to come off as somewhat obsessive and way to attached to this particular issue.
No… it was done by govs that couldn’t care less about “those people”. I think the way I put it was quite apropos.
I understand just fine, thankyouyouverygoddamnmuch! I got the feeling that Lib and his ilk… felt that those who could fend for themselves could do so. And those who couldn’t? Fuck 'em. Let 'em rot!
YMMV. I doubt Lib’s does…
ME or any else of us.
I don’t think I’m alone. You right-wing-nazi’s can phrase it any way you want. Call me a hippie (thank you!) or whatever. But it’s still just compassion for ALL our citizens.
Oh man! How did I miss this “easy meat”?
All I can say is… enable much?
No really. I’m really quite amazed by your response. The way you wholesale bought into Lib’s diatribe. The way you just give him carte blanche over your opinions. The way you give him tribute, and at the same time use that tribute to prove that Lib’s arg is superior to mine… 
I’m sure the guys from GD have a phrase for that…
At this point, I have to ask: can you actually read? For what it’s worth, I happen to partially agree with Lib’s point re: the American misuse of the word “liberal”, but that’s about the limit of it. Should you happen to be stupid enough to think that I slavishly follow Lib’s opinions (and I’m quite sure at this point that you are indeed that stupid), then I suggest you track down some of our recent history in the Pit.
Does it not bother you that pretty much no-one is agreeing with you here? I dislike argumentum ad populum as much as the next guy (ha), but the fact that you have several people who admit to a deep antipathy towards Lib who are nonetheless expressing the opinion that you’re dumber than a bag of hammers must give you just a little pause, no?
Why? You’re criticizing libertarians based on implying that their ideal society advocates something it’s completely and unambiguously in opposition to. Even if one believes in a civilized form of survival of the fittest, that’s not eugenics as I understand them. Perhaps I’m in error.
I don’t know Lib personally, so I can’t say, but your view of libertarianism seems to be pretty skewed.
A lot of libertarians feel as though, even in the case of the destitute and such, that given a lack of huge taxation and government interference in the markets, people would have more money to do what they elected to do with, and would be more prone to supporting charities - charities that would necesarily function more efficiently to help whatever their chosen subject was better than a bloated, governmental bureaucracy that encourages people to become dependent on their government.
Your idea of libertarians seems to be that they’d laugh at a homeless guy dying on the street, and that may be true in some cases, but it seems like a sign of mental weakness on your part to need to demonify people who have different feelings on the issues.
I’m not right ring, and libertarianism in general is not right wing, by the current definitions of that term. It shows that you have very little depth to your understanding political ideologies that you can only think of politics in terms of left and right, and if they’re not in agreement with you, then they’re the enemy and therefore they must be right.
And you’re far closer to being a Nazi than I am. You seem to have very little actual understanding of the ideologies that you speak of, and you also appear to be having a breakdown in the middle of this thread way overblowing a pretty small issues. The more people who chime in to say you’re wrong, the more obsessive you get.
Precisionist libertarians are not opposed to doing charitable works for the benefit of the poor without expectation of reward. The position I have read, and heard from Liberal does not include any admonition against personal charity. What I see as his belief is that government should not practice it, nor any other infringement on the rights of property.
While it is a position I cannot support, Liberal seems to believe that private acts of charity are very important, and would be more . . . efficient, I suppose than state mandated financial manipulation intended to accomplish the same ends. It is a point not without some merit, since politics tends to rear its ugly head everywhere, including in charitable organizations.
I can assure you that in his own life, private acts of charity are fundamental, and a far more significant element of his real day to day living than a very large percentage of liberals I know. Hope this annoying little facet of reality doesn’t interfere in you foaming at the mouth.
Tris
“We have too many high sounding words, and too few actions that correspond with them.” ~ Abigail Adams, 1774 ~
I think the real point to remember here is that “a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.”
A libertarian by any other name would yet be crazy and irrelevant.
Ah, I see. Your subscription runs out soon?
Why are you so ashamed to be a Libertarian?
Full disclosure : My name is a musical term, but I am not now nor have I ever been a musician.
**Liberal **can be a real joy to read. He can also, I gather be a real pain in the ass. When he’s being a pain in the ass my attention tends to wander a bit. Thankfully, I always have my dogs to amuse me.
I also usually enjoy Dead Badger’s posts. I would sadden me to think that this pleasure must be forgone based on my absolutely certainty that he is neither dead, nor a badger.
The OP appears to operate in a continual state of sixes and sevens. I will leave you, gentle reader, to determine whether he is as false with his username as many of the rest of us are.
In the spirit of honesty, i’m not actually a gateway of the dead.
Personally, I’m sorry for anything I’ve ever done to offend Dead Badger. The style sheet he made for me has spared me lots of eye strain. It was a damn decent thing to do.
Ok, I admit it, I usually know ‘What Exit’ I am looking for.