Liberal, you are a coward, a hypocrite, and a liar

The BBQ Pit
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And I say that with all due respect, meaning that’s all the respect that’s due you. Which makes me feel a little bit sad, since I honestly did respect you at one time; not for your theology, which I find incoherent and lacking in logic, nor for your Libertopian ideas, which I think mostly border on outright lunacy, but for your lucidity and way of standing up for your ideas when under attack from various angles all at once. I started to lose respect a while back when you attacked other posters with a variety of rather vile insults because you didn’t like them questioning your assertions. Now I don’t respect you at all.

You’re a coward. When one of your fantasies is challenged, you either hide behind a smokescreen of abstruse verbiage, attack the challenger with ad homina, or ignore the challenge altogether and hope it‘ll go away. More than that, you feel your righteousness allows you to launch an attack out of left field, and then when requested to explain your attack refuse to answer. Case in point: you told me that you think I hate you. (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8206624&postcount=135) I am not a Xian, so I don’t use the word “sin” to describe destructive behavior, but if I did, I would say that there are two “sins” that are the root of almost all misery in this world: greed and hate. I don’t hate anyone. I can honestly say that I don’t have an enemy in the world, and haven’t since junior high school fifty years ago. I asked you politely to tell me what I had done to make you view me that way; you ignored me. If I were to accuse someone on this board of being a child molester, or maybe a Republican, I would expect to at least have to explain my reasoning. You apparently disagree.

You’re a hypocrite. You prattle continually about “goodness” and “love”, and whenever you’re in the mood you insult people. You like to ooze sanctimonious flattery towards those whose praise you’re hoping for, and you are fond of whining about being picked on. You have, in the past, tried to gain sympathy by loudly proclaiming your Cherokee heritage, and when I tried to perhaps suggest that you and I might have something in common (my half-Indian wife and quarter-Indian children) you ignored my post. By the way, I’m not convinced that you are an Indian, except maybe in the Ward Churchill sense. A long time ago I was in the habit of collecting Libertarian posts from a variety of message boards, and I came on a certain poster, on a now-defunct board, whose handle was C---- W-----. This poster used the phrase “peaceful honest people” repeatedly, and claimed to have written a tear jerking story about an abused child that ended in “Where is my mother?” Sound familiar? Anyway C---- W----- described his background as, well, something quite different from “7/8 Cherokee”. I believe the SDMB frowns on cross-posting from different boards, so I won’t, but I could always paraphrase….

And you’re a liar. You have been prating for years about “Whatever you ask for, (or treasure), God will give you.” Never once in all your past posts did you suggest that what you really meant was “Kiss Hanks ass just right, and he’ll give you a million dollars, but only after you leave town.” In this post (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8436184&postcount=344) you finally admit that, well, maybe your god didn’t give the Cherokee what they treasured on the Trail of Tears, but it’s all Goodness and Love because there’ll be pie in the sky by and by, and anyway they were comforted by the thought that one hundred fifty years later they would be honored as martyrs.

So there’s something gained: you won’t be yammering quite so much about “Goodness” and “treasures” because every time you do, I’ll just repost your reply, as quoted above.

You ignore all my posts, no matter, how politely I address you, so I assume you’ll ignore this one. Fine. I just wanted to get my feelings towards you out in the open.

May Gawd be with you on your quest for truth my brother……no, that’s your line when you’re in a toadying mood. Mine is “Go felch a dead hedgehog, coward”.

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If people would just realize tha Liberal is just batshit crazy then they wouldn’t get all up in arms about what he says.

YMMV.

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Liberal ignores all your posts, but it is a response to a post that you addressed to him that caused you to launch this diatribe?
I sense a bit of a disconnect.

Having read the posts that so infuriated you, I have to say I am a bit confused regarding the source of your ire. The two of you appeaered to be engaging in one of those philosophical discussions that are either deeply profound or an example of mental masturbation and I suspect that you are not comfortable with his use of the language, but at no point was Liberal nasty to you or disrespectful of your position and his earlier comment about your hatred for him seemed to be an expression of bemusement regarding the manner in which you address him. neither seemed to require a Pit response. It really did not require a Pit response two weeks (to say nothing of two and a half months) later.

::: sigh :::

However, now that we have our 4,637th Pitting of Liberal, I hope you get all the satisfaction you can out of it. I suspect that when this thread finally dies you will be no more happy than you are now.

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What the hell? Did Lib run over your dog or something?

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He’s entirely unfair to the noble legacy of Andrew Jackson, too.

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waves to Liberal

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Coward, hypocrite and liar. Sure. But he can kick your ass at Madden, can’t he?

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IN OTHER NEWS - SKY STILL BLUE! WATER STILL WET!

I do not support this pitting. Come back when you have fresh wrath. This wrath is stale and un-entertaining.

For the record, I don’t find Liberal all that bad. He doesn’t make much of an impression on me one way or another, as a matter of fact, as I imagine most of us don’t on most other posters here, too.

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Tom, I explained in my opening diatribe what infuriated me. I believe very strongly that hatred is one of the two cardinal “sins” of humankind, and I see nothing in any of my posts to Lib that would cause him to accuse me of such a feeling. If you would like to point out anywhere that I have addressed him disrespectfully I will apologize, but as I said, if I accused someone on the board of behavior that they feel is plainly evil, I would expect to be called on it and asked my reasoning. I asked Lib to explain; he refused.
Mental masturbation? The question of whether, if a god exists, it actually interacts with us humans in some benevolent way, is as basic to the whole atheist/theist debate as any.
As for “nasty”, when I used the word “abstruse” to refer to his logic (and if you disagree that some of his phrasing is abstruse, I am surprised), he told me I was “like Dr House [whoever that is] on steroids in the Pit”. Disrespectful of my position? He refuses to address my position on several of his key points, even when I made a post attempting to establish some sort of mutual bond, and exposing a good deal more about myself than I am comfortable with. (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8447986&postcount=400)and then asking politely if he would please reply. (http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=8466019&postcount=479). As for the two weeks delay, the thread is still open and active, and Lib has been replying to everybody else, so I was hoping he’d get around to me eventually.
I know, this is the fourthousandsomethingest pitting of dear Liberal, but I never joined in any of the other threads, and in fact I’ve never pitted anyone except Fred Phelps once, which shouldn’t count. Don’t I get a chance to poke Liberal with a stick just once, since most everyone else has?
M.

By the way, where can I find instructions on how to put “cite” in the URL brackets instead if the whole line?

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Here.

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Deleted post. QED beat me to it.

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I second everything tomndebb wrote. I think you are making much too much of this small remark. And you’ve waited quite a while to do so.

This week, I’ve heard a term I was unfamiliar with before, but it seems to describe too many people; ‘injustice collector’. Don’t be one.

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I’m disappointed. There are many, many, many examples available of Lib being a coward, a hypocrit, or a liar–there are even many examples of him being any two of those things simultaneously, and no shortage of him hitting a trifecta. The posts addressed in the OP are far from the best examples.

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Well, it was probably just time for another Liberal pitting.
Hey, can I throw in a pitting for him liking Chris Richardson on American Idol?
Eh … I just can’t get frothy enough about that yet. Maybe later.

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Aaaw. Tomndebb is just jealous that he’s being pwned in the most-pitted competition by someone who isn’t even a moderator. :slight_smile:

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Actually, I really liked that post you linked to and found it very well-written. And
Mapache, has it occurred to you at all that if it was your intent to convey to Liberal that you don’t hate him, you’ve gone about it in rather a backwards way?

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“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”

Just thought we needed a bit of abstruse nastiness.

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Are you one of those people who moves somewhere new and immediately tries to ingratiate themselves? You know what I mean - getting involved in long-running disputes, passing on gossip, being best buddies with everyone, referring to new-to-you knowledge as if it were learned at your mothers teat and all that kind of stuff. I hope not (because I’ve been that guy in real life) and it’s a pretty life-changing experience when you realise that everyone else is thinking “Who the fuck is this stupid cunt”.

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QG, you are quite correct. Guess I better work on that.
In my defense, I did say “with all due respect”. Of course, I stole the line from Woody Allen in Broadway Danny Rose.

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No, but judging by the timing of the OP, it might be time to ridicule his vote for Katherine McPhee.