[QUOTE=Hentor the Barbarian]
Okay, I just looked, and I could find no Pit thread about Bush setting up a time table for Iraq withdrawal. What is with all the fucking fingerwagging Oy! and wring? If you fucking think it’s so very important that that issue be discussed and this one not, why have you failed to start a pit thread on the topic?
Similarly, why have you both failed to post one single time in the GD thread in which John Mace brought up Bush’s time table issue. See, it’s actually been raised for discussion there, but you have failed to discuss it. If you want to stop grabbing at low hanging fruit, perhaps the most productive thing to do would be to knock off the tsk tsking bullshit and actually discuss the fucking issue.
Christ, Oy!, your post was so long I had to check to make sure it didn’t start with Aaron, Aaron and end with Zwiebel, Zekiel. If you gave even half that effort to actually discussing the crucial thing that must be discussed, you might advance your concerns a bit further. But if you’d rather spend your time mired in your disgust for your fellow Democrats, I think that’s pretty telling.
Once again, if there’s a topic that needs to be discussed, fucking discuss it. One post. Somewhere. Jesus H.
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I haven’t been on the Dope or even on-line for a couple of weeks, and this thread happened to be the first one that caught my eye. How silly of me not to know clairvoyantly that there was no thread addressing the time-table issue, especially given that I don’t usually go into GD at all! (GD intimidates me.)
You may have noticed that I don’t post often, and most times I do have been in flurries to a specific thread, often very trivial. That means I’ll go for weeks or months without posting at all. I have started two or three threads in my life, and they’ve been either trivial or factual questions. I don’t start political debate threads and I rarely participate in them, because I suck at it.
But occasionally I see a political or psychological thread that catches me emotionally enough to overcome my usual reluctance to post. As in this case. You see, much as I utterly despise the spoiled frat boy in the White House, when I saw the clip, the first thing I thought other than the immediately obvious denial of the phrase W has used hundreds of times, was that he really wasn’t talking about the same thing as he had been when he used it in those earlier speeches - it was exactly the kind of thing people talk about when they scream about being quoted out of context. Then I read on, and saw several other people suggest pretty much exactly what I had been thinking, and practically stoned by the villagers for doing so. I read through the thread, and then saw about the changing policy on a time-table (about which I knew nothing, btw, also not having seen the news in several weeks). This struck me a seriously important issue that was being ignored in favor of a stupid (although funny) one. I don’t have the knowledge, the bravery or the energy to argue an issue of that magnitude, but a lot the posters in this thread do (and are very good at it), and I hated to see them making this foolishness the central theme rather than the important issue. I saw this as a problem that has bitten us Dems in the ass before - we really are shitty at it, while the Pubs seem to do it very well. Maybe because one of the things that defines us as a party these days is that we are able to see and willing to discuss nuance, sometimes at the expense of the effective sound bite.
So just what the fuck was my response telling of? The fact that I think the Dems are not doing as well as I think we should be in a comparatively favorable environment, and that I had some ideas as to why that I wanted to communicate? The fact that I am a lousy debater and afraid of GD? Let me have it, Hentor! What long-hidden, deep-seated evil in myself have I now exposed to the world?
And yes, when I post at all, I tend to be long-winded. So excuse the fuck out of me for having expressed myself on the issue and taken up so much of your valuable time.
