Web site fraud and World of Warcraft (long ass rant)

It ain’t trollin’ if it’s the truth.

The inevitable noise to every post you make, Evil Captor, is the disturbing fap fap fap fap of you masturbating in the background. Sometimes it’s outright real masturbation, like when you talk about hentai when the rest of us are talking about movies, or when you talk about how much you want more nudity on television, or how you think it’d be cool if women sexually harrassed you at work.

But in GD and The Pit - and very especially in this thread - it’s the sound of you masturbating to your own self-righteousness. The sound of you deciding that you are the moral and ethical superior being to all those who oppose you, and reveling in how your ideals are the true embodiment of truthiness. I mean, Jesus, here you are comparing yourself and fellow pot smokers to The Founding Fathers in your Diogenesic desire to break down all truth and rebuild a truly better society out of bellybutton lint. And in the background is the low moaning of a man bringing himself to orgasm with the thought of how cool and right he is.

You don’t come to threads to read, or to learn, or to discuss. You come to drench us in your self-love of your self-importance and self-love of your ideas and the importance of your ideas.

You are everything that is bad about this message board.

And the most disturbing fact I’ve discovered in this thread? The realization that you have a child. God help him.

You’ve really got to get over your obsession – and I’m saying this with only the best of intentions – over my personal sex life. Otherwise, thanks for that fascinating diatribe on the World of Warcraft and its rules regarding gold farming.

Since a few posters keep saying that Blizzard does nothing after posts to the contrary, from this page at Blizzard’s site:

This news post is from Oct. 12th, 2006. There are a few more paragraphs in the post if you’re interested. To sum up, Blizzard closed more accounts in the month of September than many MMORPGs have as a subcriber base.

Said like the self-absorbed loser you are. I’m not obsessed with your sex life, you are. Fuck, you even named yourself after your fetish. And you drape your fantasies and descriptions of porn and desires for more porn through most of the threads you touch, and clutter up Cafe Society with thread titles about how much more nudity you want, and such.

I tell you what - I’ll bring my dog over to your neighborhood, and let him shit all over the street in front of your house, and when you complain about the smell and the view, I’ll tell you that you need to get over your obsession with my dog’s anus. Sound good to you?

When you click on “Accept” for a EULA, you are giving the company permission to do all sorts of things. Just like you wouldn’t have a legal leg to stand on if you signed a contract without reading the fine print, you don’t really have any grounds to complain if you accept a EULA without reading the fine print.

I don’t inappropriately post on sexual topics. I do enjoy posting on sexual topics. though, and am happy to do so where appropriate. Note for example I have not brought it up here. If that bothers you, once again, I advise you to tend your own garden.

Oh, and dog poop and sex … not really the same thing, John. Apples and oranges, only more so.

Well, now, that would depend on your fetish, wouldn’t it?

And I do understand that, which is why I almost didn’t bring it up, everyone here being quite adamant about things like that. However, I still stand behind my original feelings that there are some folks who just. don’t. get. it. For example, totally unrelated to gaming (online or off), I was raised to read every last jot and tittle of any thing I agreed to. However, in my experience, there’s so much crap you repetitively go through with lots of red tape, that even if you do that, it’s still not necessarily going to stick in your brain. Certainly if it’s something seeming rather inconsequential (like signing up for a new email address or to take your local news paper), you don’t even know you should go back and re-read your commitment to honor because you’re not aware that you’ve (might do?) anything in violation of said agreement. Therefore, nothing pertaining to it ever honestly crosses your mind.

Now I realize in the case of something you take to be important or you’ve been somehow forewarned about (like apparently in this case when your in a group who has either used said services before or you’ve seen the result of doing so), you’re even more culpable than you already are. But, if you play independently, and you’re a beginner, I can definitely see otherwise how you could land yourself in that unenviable position.

I hope that makes my views on this a little more clear. No matter what though, all that’s only my opinion and I do respect others that believe differently. I’m really impressed with those who can remember stuff like the EULA and it’s counterparts and then honor their agreements. It would be nice if more of us were capable of that. And I mean all of that sincerely.

Anyway, nice to talking to ya. :slight_smile:

Real money transactions and third party programs are a hot button subject on nearly all MMOs. Even if someone doesn’t read the EULA, I find it hard to believe that they can spend enough time on the game to max out several characters and yet not know whether or not such things are acceptable. I suppose it’s possible, but very unlikely.

Not to mention that it is prominently displayed on the Warcraft forums, as well. And, given that we have been getting in-game spam (tells, mails) about gold farming, and every guild line or general channel will light up with … “strong reactions” from players as soon as spammer gets on and does his thing… well, if you’re that stupid, you probably deserve to get your account banned.

May I worship you?

It’s only believable if you play MMOs, but

  1. don’t party with other players,
  2. have no friendships connected to the game,
  3. have all means of in-game chat blocked,
  4. don’t talk with other people about the game, or overhear conversations about the game,
  5. don’t visit websites pertaining to the game.

Basically, the MMO would have to be an extremely dirty little secret about which you’re deliberately keeping yourself extraordinarily ignorant.

S’alright. I do understand what everyone seems to be saying now… in these particular instances it’s virtually impossible NOT to know. And since I’m entirely clueless where gaming is concerned, I will certainly defer to those who play and are therefore more knowledgeable. Which means basically means anyone has a leg up on me. :slight_smile: I promise to stop applying my real world experience to this and now politely back out of the thread.

Hopefully this issue will become soon become better resolved to the majority of y’all’s community. I’m sorry for making inaccurate assumptions. So I’ll disappear from the WoW universe now and go get me some egg nog instead. I’m so not cut out for stuff that I could become more addicted to then eBay anyhow. :smiley: :smiley:

My understanding was they wanted to go so far as to tax anyone who got a loot drop (or were rich in coin) that “could” be sold to someone else for real life currency, whether or not they did. They want to tax “potential” income. I thought I’d read they were going to make the gaming companies report rare/desired loot drops so they could make the person pay taxes accordingly? Hmmm, I will have to dig a bit to see just to what extent they do want to take it with the law.

You can’t tax potential income - you can only tax realized income.

That’s like saying that they want to tax the stock I own based on the gains I might have made this year if I sold it.

Well, I am going by the idea that they are assuming every gamer is a liar, and of course they sell the things for actual currency. I am glad to see though, how very unlikely they are to succeed because the laws are on the gamer’s side.

Then they have to prove it. What they can do is ask Blizzard to turn over accounts that seem to have a history of farming drops that have real world value. Then they target those people for audit. However, a little research is going to show that this isn’t a good idea - hard to collect U.S. income taxes on a Korean citizen, there isn’t really enough gain here to make it worth the effort. Its some congressman blowing smoke out his ass. Which they often do with the internet.

Oh, no, no need to leave. I think a lot of MMO players would do well to apply certain bits of real-world experience into their gameplay.

When come back, bring egg nog.

Forgive my ignorance, but isn’t that the basis of raising real estate assessments? I pay more on my house this year because the value* if I sell* it is now higher…even though I don’t sell?

Sailboat

Well, yeah, but that’s property taxes, not income taxes.
So how much capital gain can one expect on a Kaliri feather?