Week 1 CFB -- Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will LOSE?

[Zeldar]

For LAST YEAR’s Opening Week thread/poll see

Week 1 CFB -- Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will lose? --- << corrected poll...

Week 1 CFB – Which BCS Top 25 team(s) will lose?
07-26-2014, 08:13 AM

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THIS YEAR’s Opening Week

The College Football 2015 Opening Week Top 25 teams’ schedule is shown at

NCAAF College Football Scores & Game Results - Yahoo Sports

and is based on the Final BCS Rankings from last season.

Between now and opening kickoff on September 3, pick the Top 25 Team(s)
that you expect to LOSE their opening game.

For the complete – all games – schedule for Week 1 see

Week 1 schedule for 2015

Here is the full Top 25 schedule with BCS Rankings shown:

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Thursday, September 3

7:30 PM EDT
Alcorn St. @ (8) Georgia Tech

8:30 PM EDT
Michigan @ (21) Utah

9:00 PM EDT
(3) TCU @ Minnesota

10:00 PM EDT
UTSA @ (19) Arizona

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Friday, September 4

7:00 PM EDT
(5) Michigan St. @ W. Michigan

7:00 PM EDT
(7) Baylor @ SMU

10:15 PM EDT
Washington @ (16) Boise St.

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Saturday, September 5

3:30 PM EDT
(24) Louisville vs. (22) Auburn

12:00 PM EDT
LA Monroe @ (9) Georgia

12:00 PM EDT
Tenn-Martin @ (17) Mississippi

12:30 PM EDT
Wofford @ (15) Clemson

3:30 PM EDT
Virginia @ (10) UCLA

4:00 PM EDT
SE Missouri St. @ (14) Missouri

7:00 PM EDT
South Dakota @ (18) Kansas St.

7:00 PM EDT
(12) Arizona St. @ Texas A&M

7:00 PM EDT
Missouri St. @ (25) Memphis

8:00 PM EDT
(13) Wisconsin vs. (4) Alabama

8:00 PM EDT
Eastern Wash. @ (2) Oregon

8:00 PM EDT
Texas St. @ (5) Florida St.

10:00 PM EDT
(11) Mississippi St. @ Southern Miss

11:00 PM EDT
Arkansas St. @ (20) USC

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Sunday, September 6

3:00 PM EDT
Purdue @ (23) Marshall

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Monday, September 7

8:00 PM EDT
(1) Ohio St. @ Virginia Tech

[Zeldar]

Scoring for this poll will follow what we used in this post from last year’s Week 15.

Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows:

1. Pick a team to LOSE and they LOSE – +1 point

2. Pick a team to LOSE and they WIN – -1 point

3. Fail to pick a LOSER in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- -1 point
   (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)

4. Pick both teams to LOSE in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- -1 point
   (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)

Week 15 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?

Week 15 CFB – Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?
11-30-2014, 02:30 PM

[That_Don_Guy]

@Zeldar

The College Football 2015 Opening Week Top 25 teams’ schedule is shown at
NCAAF College Football Game Scores & Results - Yahoo Sports
and is based on the Final BCS Rankings from last season.

Pardon me for being pedantic, and about three weeks after the fact, but:
(a) There were never any postseason BCS rankings (there were no CFP postseason rankings last season, for that matter), and
(b) The BCS formula can’t be duplicated exactly, even if you bring AP back to replace the no-longer-existing Harris poll, as at least two of the computer rankings that BCS used got rid of their “no Margin of Victory” versions.

[Zeldar]

@That_Don_Guy

Pardon me for being pedantic, and about three weeks after the fact, but:
(a) There were never any postseason BCS rankings (there were no CFP postseason rankings last season, for that matter), and
(b) The BCS formula can’t be duplicated exactly, even if you bring AP back to replace the no-longer-existing Harris poll, as at least two of the computer rankings that BCS used got rid of their “no Margin of Victory” versions.

I simply used the Yahoo! rankings, inaccurate as they may be. Feel free to disagree with them, but they seem to be as good a way as any to start the first of the season’s picks. Those games are at least on the schedule and somebody has to lose in them. That’s the main idea here.

There’s nothing official about this poll so post your own if you feel strongly about the issue.

[That_Don_Guy]

@Zeldar

I simply used the Yahoo! rankings, inaccurate as they may be. Feel free to disagree with them, but they seem to be as good a way as any to start the first of the season’s picks.

That wasn’t my “issue.” My only comment was, you referred to them as the “BCS” rankings, which is a specific ranking system that “officially” no longer exists, although some people calculate them using the old method (but using AP instead of the Harris poll, which no longer exists as it existed solely for BCS purposes, and using two computer rankings that take margin of victory into account as two of the six computer rankings switched methods).

Perhaps you meant FBS (what used to be called Division I-A)?

[Zeldar]

@That_Don_Guy

That wasn’t my “issue.” My only comment was, you referred to them as the “BCS” rankings, which is a specific ranking system that “officially” no longer exists, although some people calculate them using the old method (but using AP instead of the Harris poll, which no longer exists as it existed solely for BCS purposes, and using two computer rankings that take margin of victory into account as two of the six computer rankings switched methods).

Perhaps you meant FBS (what used to be called Division I-A)?

Might as well call them Yahoo!

[Zeldar]

Here’s an early crosstable:

=========================================================================================================== 
                                    ###                      ###                          $$$       $$$
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Utah   Auburn   Louisville 
                                  ========================================================================= 

basset hound              2                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin
Chingon                   2                 Arizona St.                                          Louisville
Death of Rats             3       Alabama                                        Utah   Auburn 
hende                     1                               Wisconsin 
Zeldar                    4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                  Louisville
                                  ========================================================================= 
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Utah   Auburn   Louisville 
                                  ========================================================================= 
   5                     12          1         3              3          1        1       1          2     /12 
==============================================================================================================    

Please see my Post #2 for how the scoring will work.
If you didn’t pick a LOSER in the Alabama-Wisconsin or the Auburn-Louisville game, please post your pick(s) and I will deal with it manually.
Otherwise your score will contain a -1 for the game involved.

Thanks for playing!

[Zeldar]

An update:

=========================================================================================================== 
                                    ###                      ###                          $$$       $$$
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Utah   Auburn   Louisville 
                                  ========================================================================= 
Barkis is Willin'         1                               Wisconsin
basset hound              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                              Louisville
Chingon                   2                 Arizona St.                                          Louisville
Death of Rats             3       Alabama                                        Utah   Auburn 
hende                     1                               Wisconsin 
jsc1953                   4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                  Louisville  
justmeetee                1       Alabama
Zeldar                    4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                  Louisville
                                  ========================================================================= 
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Utah   Auburn   Louisville 
                                  ========================================================================= 
   8                     19          2         4              5          2        1       1          4     /19
==============================================================================================================   

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 8  

[Zeldar]

In this crosstable the “()” entries indicate potential -1 scores based on the scoring rules described in Post #2.

If you want to pick a LOSER in those cases, either post here or PM me and I will deal with it manually.

=========================================================================================================== 
                                    ###                      ###                          $$$       $$$
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Utah   Auburn   Louisville 
                                  ========================================================================= 
Barkis is Willin'         1                               Wisconsin                       ()         ()
basset hound              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                              Louisville
Chingon                   2          ()     Arizona St.      ()                                  Louisville
Death of Rats             3       Alabama                                        Utah   Auburn 
hende                     1                               Wisconsin                       ()         () 
jsc1953                   4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                  Louisville  
justmeetee                1       Alabama                                                 ()         ()
Zeldar                    4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                  Louisville
                                  ========================================================================= 
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Utah   Auburn   Louisville 
                                  ========================================================================= 
   8                     19          2         4              5          2        1       1          4     /19
==============================================================================================================   

Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 8

[Zeldar]

Update:

=========================================================================================================== 
                                    ###                      ###                          $$$       $$$
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Utah   Auburn   Louisville 
                                  ========================================================================= 
Barkis is Willin'         1                               Wisconsin                       ()         ()
basset hound              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                              Louisville
Chingon                   2          ()     Arizona St.      ()                                  Louisville
Death of Rats             3       Alabama                                        Utah   Auburn 
hende                     1                               Wisconsin                       ()         () 
jsc1953                   4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                  Louisville  
justmeetee                1       Alabama                                                 ()         ()
Oredigger77               3       Alabama                                        Utah            Louisville 
RetroVertigo              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                              Louisville
Zeldar                    4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                  Louisville
                                  ========================================================================= 
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Utah   Auburn   Louisville 
                                  ========================================================================= 
   10                    25          3         5              6          2        2       1          6     /25
==============================================================================================================   
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 10

[yellowjacketcoder]

I must admit, I’m surprised how many people are picking Bama to lose. They aren’t my favorite team either, but they have been good for a long time. Is it more “bama hate” or “they are untested and the Badgers ain’t bad either”?

[Zeldar]

Another Update:

=========================================================================================================== 
                                    ###                      ###                          $$$       $$$
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Utah   Auburn   Louisville 
                                  ========================================================================= 
Barkis is Willin'         1                               Wisconsin                       ()         ()
basset hound              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                              Louisville
Chingon                   2          ()     Arizona St.      ()                                  Louisville
Death of Rats             3       Alabama                                        Utah   Auburn 
hende                     1                               Wisconsin                       ()         () 
jsc1953                   4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                  Louisville  
justmeetee                1       Alabama                                                 ()         ()
Oredigger77               3       Alabama                                        Utah            Louisville 
RetroVertigo              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                              Louisville
txtumbleweed              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                              Louisville 
yellowjacketcoder         4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin              Utah            Louisville 
Zeldar                    4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                  Louisville
                                  ========================================================================= 
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Utah   Auburn   Louisville 
                                  ========================================================================= 
   12                    32          3         7              8          2        3       1          8     /32
==============================================================================================================   
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 12

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[Zeldar]

Update time:

================================================================================================================================= 
                                    ###                      ###                                      $$$                 $$$
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Kansas St.  Utah   Auburn   Marshall  Louisville 
                                  =============================================================================================== 
Barkis is Willin'         1                               Wisconsin                                   ()                   ()
basset hound              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                                                    Louisville
bump                      4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                                          Marshall  Louisville 
Chingon                   2          ()     Arizona St.      ()                                                        Louisville
Death of Rats             3       Alabama                                                    Utah   Auburn 
hende                     1                               Wisconsin                                   ()                   () 
jsc1953                   4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                                        Louisville  
justmeetee                1       Alabama                                                             ()                   ()
Oredigger77               3       Alabama                                                    Utah                      Louisville 
RetroVertigo              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                                                    Louisville
russian heel              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                          Utah     ()                   ()
txtumbleweed              3                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                                                    Louisville 
yellowjacketcoder         4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin                          Utah                      Louisville 
Zeldar                    4                 Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.                                        Louisville
Zyanthia                  3                               Wisconsin              Kansas St.                            Louisville 
                                  =============================================================================================== 
                                  Alabama   Arizona St.   Wisconsin   Boise St.  Kansas St.  Utah   Auburn   Marshall  Louisville 
                                  ===============================================================================================
   15                    42          3         9             11          2           1         4       1         1          10     /42
======================================================================================================================================   
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 15

[Zeldar]

Update time:

================================================================================================================================================================================== 
                                         ###                                               ###                                                         $$$                 $$$
                                  TCU  Alabama  Georgia  Mississippi St.  Arizona St.  Wisconsin  Missouri  Boise St.  Mississippi  Kansas St.  Utah  Auburn  Marshall  Louisville 
                                  ================================================================================================================================================ 
Barkis is Willin'         1                                                            Wisconsin                                                        ()                  ()
basset hound              3                                               Arizona St.  Wisconsin                                                                        Louisville
BobLibDem                 9       TCU  Alabama  Georgia  Mississippi St.                          Missouri  Boise St.  Mississippi              Utah  Auburn             
bump                      4                                               Arizona St.  Wisconsin                                                              Marshall  Louisville 
Chingon                   2               ()                              Arizona St.     ()                                                                            Louisville
Death of Rats             3            Alabama                                                                                                  Utah  Auburn 
hende                     1                                                            Wisconsin                                                        ()                   () 
jsc1953                   4                                               Arizona St.  Wisconsin            Boise St.                                                   Louisville  
justmeetee                1            Alabama                                                                                                          ()                   ()
Oredigger77               3            Alabama                                                                                                  Utah                    Louisville 
RetroVertigo              3                                               Arizona St.  Wisconsin                                                                        Louisville
russian heel              3                                               Arizona St.  Wisconsin                                                Utah    ()                   ()
txtumbleweed              3                                               Arizona St.  Wisconsin                                                                        Louisville 
yellowjacketcoder         4                                               Arizona St.  Wisconsin                                                Utah                    Louisville 
Zeldar                    4                                               Arizona St.  Wisconsin            Boise St.                                                   Louisville
Zyanthia                  3                                                            Wisconsin                                    Kansas St.                          Louisville 
                                  ================================================================================================================================================
                                  TCU  Alabama  Georgia  Mississippi St.  Arizona St.  Wisconsin  Missouri  Boise St.  Mississippi  Kansas St.  Utah  Auburn  Marshall  Louisville 
                                  ================================================================================================================================================ 
   16                    51        1      4       1           1               9            11         1        3           1            1        5      2         1         10    /51
=====================================================================================================================================================================================   
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 16

Arrow right to see the whole group.

[DinoR]

AP Preseason Poll is out. There’s a decent chunk of teams from last year’s final polls that aren’t ranked. Louisville (pasrt of one of top 25 matchups) is among those out.)

[Zeldar]

I’ve shrunk things, but you still need to Arrow Right to see it all:

==================================================================================================================================
                                    ###                         ###                                       $$$          $$$
                              TCU  Bama  Geor  MissSt  ArizSt  Wisc  Missou  Boise  Missis  KansSt  Utah  Aub  Marsh  Louvil  Memp 
                              ==================================================================================================== 
Barkis is Willin'         1                                    Wisc                                       ()            ()
basset hound              3                            ArizSt  Wisc                                                   Louvil
BobLibDem                 9   TCU  Bama  Geor  MissSt                Missou  Boise  Missis          Utah  Aub             
bump                      4                            ArizSt  Wisc                                            Marsh  Louvil 
Chingon                   2         ()                 ArizSt   ()                                                    Louvil
Death of Rats             3        Bama                                                             Utah  Aub 
excavating (for a mind)   5                            ArizSt  Wisc                                            Marsh  Louvil  Memp 
hende                     1                                    Wisc                                       ()            () 
jsc1953                   4                            ArizSt  Wisc          Boise                                    Louvil  
justmeetee                1        Bama                                                                   ()            ()
Oredigger77               3        Bama                                                             Utah              Louvil 
RetroVertigo              3                            ArizSt  Wisc                                                   Louvil
russian heel              3                            ArizSt  Wisc                                 Utah  ()            ()
Some Call Me... Tim       3        Bama                                      Boise                        Aub
txtumbleweed              3                            ArizSt  Wisc                                                   Louvil 
yellowjacketcoder         4                            ArizSt  Wisc                                 Utah              Louvil 
Zeldar                    4                            ArizSt  Wisc          Boise                                    Louvil
Zyanthia                  3                                    Wisc                         KansSt                    Louvil 
                              ====================================================================================================
                              TCU  Bama  Geor  MissSt  ArizSt  Wisc  Missou  Boise  Missis  KansSt  Utah  Aub  Marsh  Louvil  Memp  
                              ====================================================================================================
   18                    59    1     5    1      1       10     12     1       4      1       1      5     3     2      11     1  /59
=====================================================================================================================================  
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 18

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First game is just over a week away!

[Zeldar]

Just for reference, here are some sites that compare College Football teams’ relative strengths:

NCAAF College Football Rankings - Yahoo Sports

College Football Rankings 2023

College Football Poll.com

http://masseyratings.com/cf/compare.htm
http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm
http://wilson.engr.wisc.edu/rsfc/oth_sites/rate/
http://collegefootballbelt.com/index.htm

Add to the list if you have other reference sites.

[Zeldar]

==================================================================================================================================
                                    ###                         ###                                       $$$          $$$
                              TCU  Bama  Geor  MissSt  ArizSt  Wisc  Missou  Boise  Missis  KansSt  Utah  Aub  Marsh  Louvil  Memp 
                              ==================================================================================================== 
Barkis is Willin'         1                                    Wisc                                       ()            ()
basset hound              3                            ArizSt  Wisc                                                   Louvil
BigAppleBucky             5   TCU                      ArizSt  Wisc          Boise                                    Louvil  
BobLibDem                 9   TCU  Bama  Geor  MissSt                Missou  Boise  Missis          Utah  Aub             
bump                      4                            ArizSt  Wisc                                            Marsh  Louvil 
Chingon                   2         ()                 ArizSt   ()                                                    Louvil
Death of Rats             3        Bama                                                             Utah  Aub 
excavating (for a mind)   5                            ArizSt  Wisc                                            Marsh  Louvil  Memp 
hende                     1                                    Wisc                                       ()            () 
jsc1953                   4                            ArizSt  Wisc          Boise                                    Louvil  
justmeetee                1        Bama                                                                   ()            ()
Nauplius                  3                                    Wisc          Boise                                    Louvil  
Oredigger77               3        Bama                                                             Utah              Louvil 
RetroVertigo              3                            ArizSt  Wisc                                                   Louvil
russian heel              3                            ArizSt  Wisc                                 Utah  ()            ()
Some Call Me... Tim       3        Bama                                      Boise                        Aub
txtumbleweed              3                            ArizSt  Wisc                                                   Louvil 
yellowjacketcoder         4                            ArizSt  Wisc                                 Utah              Louvil 
Zeldar                    4                            ArizSt  Wisc          Boise                                    Louvil
Zyanthia                  3                                    Wisc                         KansSt                    Louvil 
                              ====================================================================================================
                              TCU  Bama  Geor  MissSt  ArizSt  Wisc  Missou  Boise  Missis  KansSt  Utah  Aub  Marsh  Louvil  Memp  
                              ====================================================================================================
   20                    67    2     5    1      1       11     14     1       6      1       1      5     3     2      13     1  /67
=====================================================================================================================================  
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 20 

[Oakminster]

I’ve got Auburn, Wisconsin, and Arizona State to lose in Week 1. Arizona State will also be my official Upset Special over in the College Pick Em game.

[Zeldar]

@Oakminster

I’ve got Auburn, Wisconsin, and Arizona State to lose in Week 1. Arizona State will also be my official Upset Special over in the College Pick Em game.

Please use the poll at the top of the page to make your choices.