Week 5 CFB -- Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose?

Scoring for this week’s poll is as follows:

  1. Pick a team to LOSE and they LOSE – +1 point

  2. Pick a team to LOSE and they WIN – -1 point

  3. Fail to pick a LOSER in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- -1 point
    (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)

  4. Pick both teams to LOSE in a game involving two Top 25 teams-- -1 point
    (two Top 25 teams playing – one must lose)

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This week’s schedule:

NCAAF Scores & Schedule

FBS Top 25 FBS

Weeks: 5



Thursday, September 25 

 7:30 PM EDT Texas Tech       @  (24) Oklahoma St.  
10:00 PM EDT (11) UCLA        @  (15) Arizona St.   <<<

Saturday, September 27 

12:00 PM EDT Tennessee        @ (12) Georgia 
 4:00 PM EDT Louisiana Tech   @ (5) Auburn  
         TBA (1) Florida St.  @ N.C. State 
12:00 PM EDT UTEP             @ (25) Kansas St.  
12:00 PM EDT Wyoming          @ (9) Michigan St. 
12:00 PM EDT South Florida    @ (19) Wisconsin 
 3:30 PM EDT Arkansas         @ (6) Texas A&M   
 4:00 PM EDT (16) Stanford    @ Washington 
 6:00 PM EDT Cincinnati       @ (22) Ohio St.   
 7:00 PM EDT Missouri         @ (13) South Carolina    
 7:30 PM EDT N. Mex. St.      @ (17) LSU   
 7:30 PM EDT Memphis          @ (10) Mississippi   
 8:00 PM EDT (8) Notre Dame vs. Syracuse
 8:00 PM EDT (7) Baylor       @ Iowa St.
 9:00 PM EDT Illinois         @ (21) Nebraska  
10:30 PM EDT Oregon St.       @ (18) USC   

"<<<" must pick one or the other!


The AP Top 25 Poll



 1 Florida State     ACC          Record: 3-0  
 2 Oregon            Pac-12       Record: 4-0  Week 6: Thursday, October 2 10:30 PM EDT Arizona 
 3 Alabama           SEC          Record: 4-0  Week 6: Saturday, October 4          TBA (10) Mississippi  
 4 Oklahoma          Big 12       Record: 4-0  Week 6: Saturday, October 4          TBA @ TCU
 5 Auburn            SEC          Record: 3-0  
 6 Texas A&M         SEC          Record: 4-0  
 7 Baylor            Big 12       Record: 3-0  
 8 Notre Dame        Div I Ind    Record: 3-0  
 9 Michigan State    Big Ten      Record: 2-1  
10 Mississippi       SEC          Record: 3-0  
11 UCLA              Pac-12       Record: 3-0   
12 Georgia           SEC          Record: 2-1  
13 South Carolina    SEC          Record: 3-1  
14 Mississippi State SEC          Record: 4-0  Week 6: Saturday, October 4          TBA (6) Texas A&M
15 Arizona State     Pac-12       Record: 3-0  
16 Stanford          Pac-12       Record: 2-1  
17 LSU               SEC          Record: 3-1  
18 USC               Pac-12       Record: 2-1  
19 Wisconsin         Big Ten      Record: 2-1  
20 Brigham Young     Div I Ind    Record: 4-0  Week 6: Friday, October 3   10:15 PM EDT Utah St. 
21 Nebraska          Big Ten      Record: 4-0  
22 Ohio State        Big Ten      Record: 2-1  
23 East Carolina     The American Record: 3-1  Week 6: Saturday, October 4          TBA SMU 
24 Oklahoma State    Big 12       Record: 2-1  
25 Kansas State      Big 12       Record: 2-1 

Week 5 Poll released: Sep 21


Last week’s thread: Week 4 CFB – Which AP Top 25 team(s) will lose? from 09-14-2014, 02:38 PM

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Multiple choice poll on the way…

Dang it, I picked the wrong week to be out of town and missed the chance to be right on Indiana over Missouri. So I’ve got UCLA, Auburn, LSU, and Mississippi to lose this week. Congrats again to the Hoosiers for knocking off a rated SEC team on the road.

Is there a way to score for picking no ranked teams to lose this week? I don’t see any games between ranked teams, and I’m not really feeling an upset this week…

Good idea! I’ll incorporate that into next week’s poll.

I did mark (with <<<)

so that a “none” vote wouldn’t be valid this week.

Actually, I could imagine that it won’t come up very often at all now that we’re in conference play for the most part. Assuming it ever does though, how would you score it? +1?

Updated list with lines shown:


Thursday, September 25 

 7:30 PM EDT Texas Tech       @  (24) Oklahoma St.   (-13)
10:00 PM EDT (11) UCLA        @  (15) Arizona St.    (+5.5) <<<

Saturday, September 27 

12:00 PM EDT Tennessee        @ (12) Georgia         (-17.5)
12:00 PM EDT UTEP             @ (25) Kansas St.      (-29.5)
12:00 PM EDT Wyoming          @ (9) Michigan St.     (-30)
12:00 PM EDT South Florida    @ (19) Wisconsin       (-33)
 3:30 PM EDT Arkansas         @ (6) Texas A&M        (-9)
 3:30 PM EDT (1) Florida St.  @ N.C. State           (+21.5)
 4:00 PM EDT (16) Stanford    @ Washington           (+6.5)
 4:00 PM EDT Louisiana Tech   @ (5) Auburn           (-33)
 6:00 PM EDT Cincinnati       @ (22) Ohio St.        (-14)
 7:00 PM EDT Missouri         @ (13) South Carolina  (-5.5)
 7:30 PM EDT N. Mex. St.      @ (17) LSU             (-44.5)
 7:30 PM EDT Memphis          @ (10) Mississippi     (-20)
 8:00 PM EDT (8) Notre Dame vs. Syracuse             (+11.5)
 8:00 PM EDT (7) Baylor       @ Iowa St.             (+22)
 9:00 PM EDT Illinois         @ (21) Nebraska        (-18)
10:30 PM EDT Oregon St.       @ (18) USC             (-11)

"<<<" must pick one or the other!

So, we’ve got a 5.5 and a 6.5 up there. Either one COULD come home (but probably not both), but which one?

Looks like I’ll have to do a little research on Stanford/Washington before picking…

Interesting pickle! Assuming no impossible situations (like this week) I’d be inclined to award more than just a +1, but surely not the total number of ranked games, so something in between.

Maybe we can use comments in this thread to get at an idea for a consensus of what to score the situation where “No Losers” becomes a valid vote and result.

In such a situation (no Top 25 teams facing each other) ALL of them losing ought to be worth more that ALL of them winning, right? I mean, the expectation is that they all should win. So all of them LOSING would basically be your Cold Day In Hell! :smiley:

Ahh…somehow I missed that one. Haven’t actually voted yet, so I’ll consult the Magic 8 Ball and pick a loser before the poll closes.

Might be better than all the number crunching I do. As Zakalwe’s tally shows, I would be better off keeping my ideas to myself. :frowning:



Name                           Total   Week 1    Week2   Week 3   Week 4

Oakminster                       4       4        -2      -1        3
tonyfop                          3       0         3       0        0
Zakalwe                          3       1         2      -1        1
Frosted Glass                    2       2         0       0        0
Snupzilla                        2       2         0       0        0

USCDiver                         2       2         0       0        0
yellowjacketcoder                2       0         0       0        2
doverpro                         1       1         0       0        0
excavating (for a mind)          1       0        -1       0        2
Mince                            1       1         0       0        0

Nauplius                         1       2        -1      -1        1
Really Not All That Bright       1       1         0       0        0
Snowboarder Bo                   1       1         0       0        0
zoog                             1       0         0       0        1
basset hound                     0       0         0       0        0

Oredigger77                      0       0         0       0        0
Wolverine                        0       1         1      -2        0
armedmonkey                     -1       0         0      -1        0
Doctor Who                      -1       2        -2      -1        0
Labrador Deceiver               -1       0         0      -1        0

LonghornDave                    -1      -1         0       0        0
Pai325                          -1      -1         0       0        0
Ponch8                          -1       0         0       0       -1
RetroVertigo                    -1       0        -1       0        0
Sterling Archer                 -1       0         0      -1        0

The Universe Lashes Out         -1       0        -1       0        0
bump                            -2      -1        -1       0        0
Chingon                         -2       0         0       0       -2
Quintas                         -2       0         0       0       -2
Zeldar                          -2       0        -1       0       -1

JohnT                           -3       0         0      -3        0
Zyanthia                        -3      -1         0      -3        1
jsc1953                         -4      -3         2       0       -3
susan                           -4      -4         0       0        0
astorian                        -6       0        -2      -2       -2

Typo Negative                   -6      -3        -3       0        0
BobLibDem                      -21      -5        -9      -7        0


Let’s game it out:
Situation: No top teams lose.
Choice 1: Don’t play that week, take a 0.
Choice 2: Take one or top teams to lose, -1 pt for every game picked.
Choice 3: Take the “No Losers” option, +1

If you pick it and you’re right, you gain season points on everyone who took Choice 1 or 2. Sounds about right to me.

Zakalwe’s tally is wrong. I scored two points in week four.

See this is why the rest of the nation hates Big 10 fans. They don’t root for their teams. They don’t even like their teams that much. They spend all their time and energy rooting against other teams. Listening to them is like listening to a Republican Congressman that doesn’t care if his party fails just as long as Obama fails harder.

You are correct. I had one of astorian’s picks in your column and your score wasn’t moving to the summary page. It’ll be corrected on this week’s summary.

I disagree. I root for Michigan State, then the rest of the Big Ten teams in order of my fondness for the school, starting with Michigan and ending with Ohio State. What I object to is the sense of entitlement that SEC fans have, thinking they had a guaranteed place in the BCS title game and now at least one, maybe two (hell, why not four?) spots in the new four team tournament. Wisconsin and Michigan State lose to rated teams on the road, and people say the Big Ten is eliminated from the tournament. If this is true, why doesn’t Missouri’s loss to an unranked team at home eliminate the SEC?

A reminder:

Due to Thursday night games,

OK, Magic 8-Ball says Texas A&M and UCLA lose this week. I voted accordingly. For anyone that cares, Arkansas on the road over Texas A&M will be my official Upset Special this week.

Here’s how things stand before the poll closes:



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                                                                <<<                   <<< 
                             FlSt  Aub  TexA&M  NotDam  Missi  UCLA  Georgia  SCar  ArizSt  Stan  LSU  Wisc  OhioSt  OklaSt  KansSt 
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armedmonkey              2                                     UCLA                                                  OklaSt
astorian                 2                                     UCLA                                          OhioSt
BobLibDem                4         Aub                  Missi  UCLA                               LSU   
excavating (for a mind)  4              TexA&M                       Georgia        ArizSt                           OklaSt 
JohnT                    4                                     UCLA  Georgia  SCar                                           KansSt
jsc1953                  1                                     UCLA 
Nauplius                 1                                                          ArizSt  
Oakminster               2              TexA&M                 UCLA
Oredigger77              2              TexA&M                 UCLA
Ponch8                   4   FlSt               NotDam                              ArizSt  Stan  
The Universe Lashes Out  1                                     UCLA
Wolverine                1                                     UCLA
Zeldar                   3                                           Georgia        ArizSt                   OhioSt
zoog                     2                                                          ArizSt  Stan
Zyanthia                 2                                     UCLA                                    Wisc
                             ======================================================================================================
                             FlSt  Aub  TexA&M  NotDam  Missi  UCLA  Georgia  SCar  ArizSt  Stan  LSU  Wisc  OhioSt  OklaSt  KansSt 
                             ======================================================================================================
   15                   35    1     1      3      1       1     10      3      1      5       2     1    1      2       2       1  / 35
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Just a note of thanks: this week’s total number of voters has been greater than any since Week 2!

I’m sorry, but the fact that your post is more concerned with the SEC kinda proves my point. Hate is not fun, man.

:dubious: