Read the Giant-sized Astonishing X-Men - a question -
Is the Whedon Astonishing X-Men part of the regular continuity? Or does this book now join the regularly scheduled continuity already in progress? And if the first AREN’T part of continuity, does that mean that Kitty’s still around?
Hopefully, some of you can help me understand what is happening in the Marvel Universe a little better.
Right now, Skrulls have infiltrated all levels of government and heroes. They’ve learned how to copy powers not just of the Fantastic 4, but of other heroes, and can create Super Skrulls with multiple different powers.
Last year, the Hulk single-handedly laid waste to the Marvel universe.
Now, if I’m a Skrull (and you’ll never know if I am or I’m not - nyah nyah), why don’t I just make 1/2 dozen Hulks and be done with it? Why combine Cyclops and Mr. Fantastic, or Wolverine and Ant-man? I know they recently hand-waved away the Skrulls copying Sentry, while also doing their best to get Sentry out of the fight (talk about useless resurrections), but this is ridiculous. Who gives a shit if you copy Luke Cage, Spiderman, and Mockingbird? Give me a host of Hulks and a couple of Xaviers, maybe throw in Cable at his peak power just for shits and giggles.
I’ve been reading comics for 30+ years; you’d think writers would get better over time, but they keep making the same mistakes over and over and over and over…
D_Odds: now that you explain it that way, I’m liking the invasion even less.
Let’s see what did I get last week:
Caliber: For $1, I got a pretty good first issue (of 5) retelling of Arthur and the sword (now gun) set during the American Civil War. I liked it better than the other first issue by Revolution Studios, Hercules.
Buffy: I think it’s 14, it’s the last issue of Wolves at the Gate story line. Great issue. I literally laughed my ass off twice. Pure genius. Art could’ve been better, but I’m not complaining. Fray comes and makes a visit next month. Can’t wait!
Justice Society #14, 15 (or whatever is the latest issue with Gog.) Ok, so did Magog escape Kingdom Come Earth and did the UN nuke a majority of the heroes? Or, did things pan out like like they did in KC, and Magog, no longer feeling sorry for himself, left and went to current Earth to kill self-proclaimed gods? Didn’t think Gog would actually show up. I see no good coming from a fight with Gog…then again, they (all of the heroes) did manage to take down the Anti-Monitor, twice.
Iron Man #2: Very impressed with the story telling. It keeps the action intense and has a good cliff-hanger for the next issue.
Batman RIP #2: I’m sensing pacing issues, but overall, I’m pretty entertained.
The Magog in the JSA books is the one from New Earth, not from Earth-22 (the KC earth). Superman 22 seems to think that everyone died in the nuke, but he also thought that in the original Kingdom Come and he was wrong. So there may be survivors of the battle back on his earth.
Yeah, but then he got caught. Anyway, what’s the sense of putting all your eggs in one basket? As someone in a manga I’ve read once said, a team of all the same player is a pretty weak one, even if that one player is really all-around powerful. In any case, by the time the Hulk came and went, they were probably already 9/10 of the way done with their Super Skrull creation - way too late to change course based on WWH.
(Note that I know exactly what your point is, and that what I said may not address it fully, or at all. Just randomly musing.)
The WWH Hulk was powered up to never-before-experienced levels on account of his rage over the loss of his wife, family and status as a savior of his adopted planet. This was a often-repeated aspect to that story. The Skrulls have experienced a damn powerful guy called the Hulk, but they certainly hadn’t encountered the one that kicked ass in WWH.
And I’m not sure why the idea that there might be limits to the power that can be created out of whole cloth is a “mistake.” One might just as easily ask “Why not make a Skrullactus?” As if developing the means to make an automobile, say, automatically enabled you to manufacture an automobile that gets 1,000 miles to the gallon.
They’ve got an Eternals-Skrull. That’s 800-mpg.
They have a GODDESS ATHENA-Skrull. At least, I assume so, as her name is ‘Grey-Eyed Athena’, not ‘Green-Eyed’.
I think Athena is a red herring (it’s being played up a bit too much and she hands out some prophecy which wouldn’t make dramatic sense as skrull).
And is there an Eternals-skrull? That should be impossible by the rules of the Marvel universe: Skrulls are Deviants so they’d need Celestial intervention to do Eternals. Unless it’s just a “let’s give someone some powers and a costume that looks kind of like a few Eternals” situation (which is really the only way to explain the majority of the team-skrulls anyway).
Hard to keep up with all the Skrulls thus far. Not hard to think that they’ll break an MU-rule then find a way to hand-wave it goodbye.
I can somewhat take Brad Serum’s hypothesis on Hulk, but Spiderwoman was in the middle of WWH, and she’s a Skrull. If that isn’t something to beam back to the Skrull homeworld, I don’t know what is. Who knows how many other heroes fighting the Hulk will turn out to be Skrull.
So far we know the Skrulls can’t do magic or the Sentry. I’m assuming they can do gods (Athena), but that the Norse pantheon’s rebirth is too new to have infiltrated. My question is why copy Mockingbird, or Hawkeye? Go for Magneto, go for Hulk, go for Xavier (or whomever is the most powerful telepath these days) - don’t play games copying Elektra. Skrulls will lose because they are DUMB. So much power used so incorrectly.
Actually, I think the idea is that the Third World and Fourth World are unique across the multiverse, and not tied to any one of the 52 Earths. Gog certainly implies this in his dialoging about falling down the inverted pyramid (or whatever) of the multiverse. And it was kind of implied in Countdown that New Genesis/Apokalips exist outside the confines of the multiverse.
It seems that Gog just crashlanded onto New Earth, not that he’s an Old God from the New Earth multiverse. (actually, he should’ve crashlanded on Earth-1, probably, then suffered along with it in being retconned in Infinite Crisis into Earth-one-and-only, and retconned again in 52 into New Earth.)
And thank Og for that. Countdown… er… really sucked. And had no coherent plotlines. I’d ignore it, too, and I read the damn thing.
Even better, he’s mostly ignoring the dreadful Death of the New Gods. Which both sucked and blowed, and which also mostly ignored Countdown.
If Final Crisis turns out even remotely like the Sinestro Corps War did, it’ll all be good, and Countdown and DofNG both well forgotten.
Secret Invasion #2. Hell, they have a Skrull that looks like it has the Phoenix Force. A Nova Skrull. One with a sword (I dunno who that is). A Thorskrull (they’re asking for trouble). A Skrull with Spidey’s enemies powers.
The Skrulls are sneaky. Pretend to be Hawkeye, you can do sabotage-y stuff till it’s time for the powered guys drop in. I wonder how they picked who would get who…some kind of lottery?