Weight Training & All in One Home Gyms?

Hi Im looking at losing some weight (fat) and increasing my upper body strength, as well as toning my overall body.

I already have an all in one home Gym (that works on Pulleys and actual Weights as opposed to rubber bands) and was wondering if anyone had some suggestions on a decent weight training course?

I’ve looked and found differing opinions on what I should be doing, ie for Lean Muscle more reps at lower weights and for Toning less reps at higher weights, but no actual suggestion as to what weight, or how many reps and how often.

at the moment Im doing 40 reps at 30kg (60ishLbs) on Benchpress, Bicep Curls etc (5 all up but Im not sure what the Tricep exercises are called), and walking to increase cardio (when I’ve increased that sufficiently Im going to start Biking).

Im also not sure how long this is meant to take as it seems odd that its taking less than 10 minutes to do this.

Also is an all in one home gym better, worse or the same as freestanding weights, as Ive not been able to get an opinion on that?

thanks in advance.

www.t-nation.com appears to be on the cutting edge of strength training thought (or at least people in their forums claim that they’ve known about every “breakthrough” for years) as well as having a very extensive forum with answers to your questions.

Thanks very much for that.

John Stone has a bunch of information on what kind of training he did to lose a lot of weight and what he does to keep it off. One of the places he referenced is AST Fitness that has an interesting approach to weight training. They pitch the supplements their company makes, but they also give decent advice on weight training, occasionally with references. When I switched from a different training regimen to MaxOT to see how it worked, I was pretty impressed, and despite the “hardcore” aspects of it, it’s not as painful as it seems. I was more wasted after completing a circuit of my previous training program than one of MaxOT.

When I was researching fitness, one thing that a lot of resources seemed to agree on is that the old saw of high reps, low weight equals toning, while low reps, heavy weight equals bulk is pretty much crap. Different training changes aspects of performance and efficiency, but it doesn’t change the “look” of the muscle that much. The difference in appearance depends on your body fat and the amount of overall muscle tissue you have, not the type of muscle tissue you recruit. Runners look lean because they have less muscle than lifters. They also sometimes have higher body fat than you would think.

Other near-universal advice/debunking:
[ul]
[li]you can’t spot-reduce fat or “shape” muscles[/li][li]isolation exercises are not as beneficial as multi-joint ones[/li][li]overtraining inhibits muscle gain[/li][li]rest is almost as important as training[/li][li]you need to take in enough calories to gain muscle or you won’t see any benefit[/li][li]upping your protein intake as a percentage of your total calories is (depending on your current diet) possibly a good thing[/li][/ul]

To gain size and strength, to increase your overall muscle tissue, you should not do too many repetitions. Advice varies depending on the source and the goals of training, but basically everyone says that if you can do more than 15 repetitions per set, the weight is too light and you’re just wasting your time. You need to have a minimum of 1-1.5 minutes of rest between sets. If you’re lifting heavy with low reps, even more time (2-3 minutes) might be necessary. Too short of a rest period and you’re overtraining, not getting the most out of your exercise time. A set of muscles needs a minimum of 24 hours rest between workouts, 48 if you’re lifting heavy. You could work out almost every day if you concentrated on one area only each session, giving your muscles a few days to recover between bouts while still keeping your butt in the gym on a regular basis.

The reason you haven’t seen any specific weight to lift is because it depends entirely on you. Everyone has different levels of conditioning and natural strength. That’s why they state rep ranges. You pick a weight that you can only lift for that number of times. For example, for 8-10 reps, 3 sets (not including warm up) you pick a weight you can barely complete the reps with. Only seven reps, the weight is a bit too heavy; eleven reps, weight is too light; barely, squeakingly getting nine is just about right. If you can finish ten reps on all three sets, you need to increase the weight a bit the next time you do that workout. This takes a bit of trial and error at first, but you get it pretty nailed down within a few weeks, even if you cycle to a different rep range.

Wow thanks for the great advice as well, Ive bookmarked both of those sites as well, and will do some indepth reading on them over the weekend.

thanks again guys

T-Nation’s a great site, but it’s not really appropriate for a beginner. Krista’s page is far better. Everything I would say is printed over there.

…especially if I give the right link. Me = dumbass.

She’s also the hell of a lot hotter than those T-jack dudes.

Dammit, Ultrafilter. Here I was agonizing over posting that link (I seem to do that every time one of these threads pop up…started to wonder if I was turning into a one trick pony or something) and here you went and did it for me. :slight_smile:

I personally like Free Weights. You use more muscles to stabilize the weight and I feel I get a better workout.

Yeah, me too. I also find I hurt myself more if I use machines for heavy weights. I think this is because machines don’t let your body follow it’s natural movements completely.

The way I got a nice program going was just having a session with a trainer at a gym. At good gyms there should be personal trainers who, after telling them your goals, will take you around the gym showing you approporiate exercises. It’ll cost a few bucks, but it’s worth it.

The way I have done set is as follows:

Example- Barbell Curl

12 reps at 50 lb.
Rest 1 minute
10 reps at 60 lb.
Rest 1 minute
8 reps at 70 lb.
Rest 1 minute
6 reps at 80 lb.
Rest 1 minute
12 reps at 70 lb.

If I can bust out those last 12 reps I probably need to up the weight for each set by 5 lbs. next time

If I can’t get through set 4 (max weight) I probably need to lower the weight by 5 lbs. next time

If I can’t get through those last 12 reps thats probably where I want to be. Constantly working towards hitting those 12 so I can up the weight the next time around.

I switch between machines and free weights. Machines typically do a good job by isolating a precise muscle you want to work on. Free weights work all the muscles around that one. I change up for variety.

That’s too high a volume for someone who’s just starting out.

I’ve got an old copy of “The Gold’s Gym Book of Strength Training for Athletes” by Ken Sprague, 1985. I bought it used in first year university and still use it thirteen years later. The advice is highly relevant, far better than most magazines, and tailored for the average guy. You can indeed teach yourself the basics – you just have to want to.

You can easily get lost in fine details – reps, weights, exercises, etc. Every lifter has an unqualified opinion on every minute detail. Don’t sweat the small stuff.

As a starting point, I’d suggest you use an initial weight of one-half your body weight for leg and back exercises and one-quarter your body weight for other exercises. Decide if this is too heavy or light by whether you can complete the desired number of repetitions with moderate but not great difficulty. I’d suggest you start off with three sets of 10 repetitions for most exercises at a weight that makes the last set moderately difficult. Consider joining a gym before spending a lot of money on home equipment until you have a better idea what you need – a good place to pick up pointers. Exercise three times a week. As you gain more experience you will lift stronger weights; wait until later before increasing your number of sets and decreasing reps. Better still, consider reading the excellent book I mentioned.

Keep your goals realistic. Mix weightlifting with aerobic activity, keep at it, and you will lose fat and gain muscle.

Dr_Pap, MD