Erm…in the first example, the fiber on the All-Bran should be listed at 4, not 20, hence the note. The points listed are correct if the fiber’s 4.
- I wanna know where that other board is.
- You divide after adding everything up.
- I still wanna know where that other board is.
Fenris, if you have a live journal, we have a community called sdmbww over there.
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Unaboard!
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Ummm. Just to be sure; that would be the second method I listed, right? (I’m being picky 'cause you gave me the answer I wanted to hear, so I’m just being cautious
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Still the Unaboard!
And I’ve never gotten the hang of Livejournal to be honest. Somehow the format confuses me…I’m not sure why. But I may give it a shot! 
BTW: A helpful tip: a good way get more real pizza* for your points is to not eat the outer rim of crust (the part that you hold that doesn’t have the sauce and cheese on it)
I sacrificed a slice or two of pizza for the purposes of dissection and weighing, did some math and based on a Pizza Hut’s Hand-Tossed Traditional with pepperoni (which is about as “average” a slice of pizza as you can get), if you skip the outer crust you save a full point per slice (the outer crust is almost exactly 1/2 the total weight of the crust itself. This does not apply to frozen pizzas!). I also figured that if you skip the cheese, you save something like 2.5 points per slice, but what would be the point? If anyone cares, I can post the math.
Which leads to yet another question: if the book and the slider disagree (which they often do regarding pre-packaged foods) which am I supposed to believe? I’ve been taking the higher number, but that doesn’t seem consistant. It should be one or the other. I’m inclined to go with the slider, personally.
Fenris
*not the fake stuff with artificial cheese. :yuk:
I was waiting for this thread to get bummed so I could post to it. I joined weight watchers on 9/4 and so far I’m lovin’ it! I started out at 223 and lost 4.2lbs in my first week! I was shocked I tell you, shocked! I was afraid that I hadn’t lost anything at all cause I felt like I ate like I normally do all that week.
I don’t feel like I’m restricting myself at all. I eat all my favorite snacks, I’m just more careful about how much of them I eat. The Smart Ones meals are surprisingly yummy so I eat them for dinner quite often. I started walking again and I’m gonna try to keep up with that. I want to walk at least a mile-mile and a half 5 days a week. We’ll see how that goes though.
My next weigh in is Thursday. I hope to continue to see some pounds disappearing.
I just wasted my last 4 points of the day on a bowl of cereal and I feel goood!
Fenris: USE THE SLIDER. The slider is always right. The slider is your friend. When you move and misplace your slider, remember that scout1222 is also your friend.
And, I meant the first way. So solly.
Fizzy, be careful with those SmartOnes. Some of them are very high in sodium, which causes water retention.
Don’t forget to drink all your water!
I was drinking an ass load of water before I joined weight watchers. Now I still drink an ass load of water every day.
I hadn’t paid any attention to the sodium. I guess I’ll have to avoid those on Thursdays.
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I whipped up an Excel spreadsheet that auto-calcuates the the formula for me. You plug in the number of portions (great for those stupid frozen vegetables that are 2.5 servings per box :rolleyes: ) along with the calories fat and fiber, and it gives the point value. Invaluable for recipes.
Damn. I liked the second method better! Oh well.
BTW: I’m having to work up to the water quota. I’ve tripled my water intake and I’m only at about half of the WW recommended 64 oz of water/per day. And I feel like an overfilled balloon. I don’t see how everyone’s doing it.
Also Fizzes: there’s a brand called “Lean Cuisine” that has much better tasting food than the Smart Ones (which are better than the dreaded “Healthy Choice” frozen dinners). IIRC the Lean Cuisine are somewhat lower in sodium than the Smart Ones. They also list WW points on the box (but they’re hard to find).
Fenris
A question for those of you who have shed sufficient poundage to require interim wardrobes - How do you deal with that?
I have 2 different sizes of jeans right now - the larger ones had been snug, but now they’re like clown pants. The smaller ones were unwearable, but now they’re comfy to slightly loose. I’m thinking I’ll wait till I can squeeze into the next smaller size, then buy some pants in that size to take me through the next phase of loss, and repeat when those become clown pants.
I’m trying to avoid spending too much money on interim clothing, but I don’t want to look like too scraggly. Luckily, at least until May, I can wear jeans to work. In fact, I pretty much need to stay in jeans - I work in an industrial enviroment and dresses won’t do at all. Further, by May, I should be pretty darn close to my goal, and at that point, I can concentrate on a new wardrobe.
So, how do you handle your clothing needs changes? Lots of Goodwill purchases? Three pairs of jeans that you wear till they fall apart? Magical, size-adjusting garments?
FCM, I’ve been thrifting. I have told myself that I’m NOT going to buy new clothes until I’m done, which is another 40-50 lbs or so. I have a whole whack of 20-24 sizes if anyone wants them, by the way.
We’re lucky in that the area we live in has quite a few ‘ladies who lunch’ who will buy a whack of clothes to diet down into, fail, and then give their clothing to Value Village or whatever. I hit the store once a week or so (or more than one) and I’ve been able to find stuff to wear for the interim, that still have tags on them.
Although, work-out-clothes are another story. Those are new.
There are several consignment shops around here, and a huge Goodwill store near the marina where hubby lives - I guess it’s not too early to check them out for some slightly smaller pants. They’ll be motivators, right?
Luckily, I’ve always liked baggy T-shirts, so I can buy them any time and they’ll be good for a while longer. Luckier still, I decided to embark on this program right about the time that my old clothes are pretty raggedy and in need of replacement, so I won’t be discarding a bunch of nearly new stuff.
Oh yeah - 25# gone since early July. Next milestone is 50# lost - wonder if I can do that by the first of the year?? Go me!
I went from a US women’s size 16 to about 1.5 years ago (and have kept the fat off, too!) and just last night, by coincidence, Fierra helped me gather three huge 39-gallon trash bags of clothes to be picked up by the Blind Services this morning. More than 80 pieces worth. Some brand new with the tags still on them.
At some point you have to declare “no going back”, and that’s what I did last night. An entire closet and half a chest of drawers is empty now.
While losing weight, I didn’t buy anything new. And I suffered with clothes that were too large for me for about half a year, disguising them or hiding them by clips, belts, safety pins, etc. for day to day work. For formal occasions such as having to meet clients, I was forced to buy some smart new clothes. And was amazed at how many nice things suddenly were “in my size”.
One problem, of course, is my feet shrank as well - nearly 3/4 size, or so it seems. Not in length, of course.
But overall, I’ve just bought new clothes in the right size and bit the bullet.
I can’t afford to go and buy clothes in the size I happen to be that month. It’s a good thing I don’t need to dress for work, or I’d be in big trouble.
By the way, my Curves weigh & measure puts me at 30.25" and 45 lbs gone. Whee!
WOW! I’m so glad to see this thread revived! I’ve been busy and the boards haven’t been read as faithfully as normal.
I got weighed in yesterday and am down a total of 36.2 pounds!!! Another 6.3 pounds and the first digit of my weight will NO LONGER be a 2!!!
Glad everyone is still doing well.
That’s terrific news, skittles! Go you!
Doesn’t sound so impressive if I don’t type where I am now, does it? :rolleyes:
Size 6 (on a thin day), Size 7 typically.
Anthracite that is terrific!!! I’m hoping to be down to near goal by my one year anniversary - which isn’t until April…so I have a way to go.
My weight came off in three jumps.
First, I went from 170-175 to 150-155.
Then, I went from 150-155 to 140-145.
Finally, I went from 140-145 to 120-125. 118 on some days, 126 on others. I have a lot of water retention fluctuation.
My waist went from 37" to 27". Which is nice (I’m 5 feet 5.5").
My technique? After trying fads and diets and counting and weight watchers and so forth?
The first drop to 150-155 was due to stress. I stopped eating mostly for two months. Some days I went 2-3 days with no calories outside of Diet Coke. This was unintentional.
The second drop to 140-145 was also due to stress, but was coupled with a radical shift away from carbohydrates in my diet. Rice, breads, and pasta were banned.
The third drop to 120-125 was mostly due to stress, but also due to dropping to one meal a day and eliminating nearly all carbohydrates. I’m on an 800 calorie a day average diet, and have been for about a year. This seems to be a maintenance diet for me, as I’ve remained within a range of +/- 4 pounds over that time. However, people keep telling me it’s “impossible” for me to be active and alert and not dying on 800 calories, so I guess I must be lying about that.
The plusses: I’m thin - very thin. And happy with my weight. My cholesterol (I’m diabetic, so this has been a problem) dropped from 240-260 to 120-140 with no medicine (the doctor said “you went from the cholesterol of a 60-year old to the cholesterol of a 16-year old. Whatever you’re doing, don’t stop!”). My good cholesterol is 3-4 times my bad for some unknown reason. And it’s remained that way for more than a year and a half. My body fat is 4%. It was measured at 9%, but this was an error due to using the calipers (I have scar tissue all over my legs, and it threw the scales off). In fact, I may have 2-3 pounds of scarred fat on my legs and sides that could be lipo’d away, if surgery was ever an option for me (due to my poor health, elective surgeries of any kind are an out, which has caused a lot of the stress I feel).
The minuses: I’m hungry. All the time. Every day. Every hour. I can eat a full meal sometimes on “splurge” days (I save up calories and have large meals at times - you know, 2000+ calorie meals) and can be hungry while I am too full to eat more. And I’m cold. All the time. I have to wear a sweater or jacket at work to be warm enough to function. Males in the office always gripe about how hot it is. Also, my body makes strange “creaking” noises from my cartilege, which the doctor says is because I “have no fat to cushion the tendons”.
The hardest part is the hunger. It requires so much willpower to resist eating* every day that it drives me insane. But I do it, out of a form of discipline I am forcing myself to maintain. It makes me cranky and bitchy and whiny and angry and irrational, but by God I’m thin. I don’t know if it’s worth it. I really, really don’t. 
Una
*[sub]Especially when those damn males bring in freaking huge boxes of doughnuts EVERY SINGLE DAY and they stand around and talk about sports and wolf down THOUSANDS of calories and NEVER gain a pound! What sort of freaks of nature do I work with? They stuff 3000 calories of doughnuts into themselves and then go out to a 2000 calorie Chinese buffet or get a 1300 calorie McDonalds Value Meal, then go home and eat God knows what else, and they don’t gain weight? How’d that happen???[/sub]
Anthracite, this doesn’t sound healthy to me.
Healthy or not, it’s the only thing that got the weight off, after 10 years of trying. Every fad and gimmick and program and special diet was tried, and all of them ultimately failed. Exercise programs dutifully kept to for years did not lose weight. I plateau’d and could never get off the plateau. The only thing that worked was stress-induced starvation, then voluntary starvation, coupled with being miserable. And it appears to be working. Even if I’m (h)angry all of the time.
My sister has fought the same exact problem. She tried everything for 15 years, and finally went on a starvation diet of 300 calories a day for a few months. And it worked. And she looked good. And she kept her energy. But after a year of success she ate to compensate for a failed wedding engagement, and gained back all her weight and then some.
I think what I’m doing is a lot less risky than some of the extreme and dubious things people do to lose weight, such as surgery and bulemia.
I don’t mean to be snarky or anything but how is being thin and unhealthy any different than being fat and unhealthy?
Isn’t it possible to find a middle ground? Maybe go up a few sizes but still look great and not be hungry and miserable all the time? Beauty isn’t related to how small your jeans are. I would think it’s more important to be healthy and happy than thin.
I’m just concerned. 800 calories a day just doesn’t seem like a good diet for anybody.