not all places give the real small cup. Some give you the smallest cup they use for soft drinks.
We were dining in the nicest restaurant in San Jose, and a certain Director was there, wearing his signature ball cap, and no one thought he was rude.
Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that no one said anything to the “certain Director” (whatever that means), rather than to say no one thought he was rude? Unless, of course, you surveyed everyone in “the nicest restaurant in San Jose”.
Our table didnt think so. How about that? Who gives a crap about wearing a hat?
Look, unless you “dress for dinner” in full white tie, you are being rude by old social"rules". But those rules change.
Sweet Tomatoes, a salad buffet, has plastic glasses, with different colors for water (free) and soda/iced tea (charge.) The water glass is plenty big for soda, but I bet there is a behavioral economics study saying that giving a water glass that is different makes it obvious that you are cheating if you use it for soda and thus cuts down on the cheating - even if none of the employees would ever call a person on it.
Six years later…
This is one of the funniest things I’ve ever seen on SDMB! Thank you!!
Elbows on the table?!
clutches pearls and swoons
Really, how can you even stand to mention such base depravity? Some warning, surely, was warranted.
Come off it. Elbows on the table, really? My family used to get very sniffy about things like…oh, people holding their knives like pens, for example, and elbows on the table was in the same list of things that would see you cast out. In some quarters the more-commonly-American practice of cutting food then switching the fork to the right hand to pick it up (as opposed to spiking the piece which is to be eaten with the fork, cutting it free with the knife then lifting the still-speared morsel to the mouth) is frowned upon as unrefined - or at the very least childlike and gauche - despite its being perfectly normal to literally millions of diners. And - quite rightly - I think most people nowadays would say that’s ALL utter cobblers and anyone who gets bent out of shape about it should maybe just grow up.
It’s six years too late, but those arguing with this missed the punchline: The headquarters of the Coca Cola Company is located in Atlanta, Georgia. I recall this from the days when I was hippie boy visiting many large data processing centers. (The Coca Cola mainframe I attended had a peculiar timing glitch that affected a diagnostic but not system firmware. Since customer insisted the diagnostics run error-free, I solved his problem temporarily by putting a capacitor, believe it or don’t, on a system clock! IBM mainframes come in two colors: red and blue. The salesman never needed to ask Coca Cola what color they wanted! )
I was also flabbergasted by the concern Dopers expressed about losing a few cents. I envy a life so care-free that such complaints are worth mention. OTOH I admit I was annoyed when a foxy waitress in Santa Cruz, Calif., noticing I seemed tipsy, made change for a $50 bill as though it were $20.
Yes, it’s bad manners to “police” other people. At the same time, it’s bad manners to wear a hat in a restaurant.
From your cite:
Ummm, your cite sucks donkey balls.
I am offended by ball caps in any restaurant better than fast food. Not sure why, as it really is a pretty arbitrary rule and it doesn’t hurt anyone. On the other hand, I customarily flaunt the elbows on the table rule. I just like doing it and don’t care who I offend.
Did you notice the copyright/posted dates on those sites? Huffpo: 2012, Mary-Anne Morrison: 2018, Laura Apsit Livens: 2015, Healdsburg Patch: 2013 (and by the same writer).
And yes, the HuffPo article says updated in 2017, but here’s the 2012 original and the part you quoted is the same.
What on earth does hat racks in peoples’ homes have to do with wearing hats in a restaurant?
Also, people on this board routinely quote huffpo as if it were authoritative, but I don’t recall you complaining about it those threads. :dubious:
Your cite claims it’s poor etiquette to place a hat on a bad because of bad ju-ju. Yeah, right. I’ll disregard the rest of the article as well.
IIRC, you’re an older gentleman. Surely you were taught that wearing hats in a restaurant is poor form.
I do not wear a hat in a restaurant by choice (I do not recall being taught not to).
If someone else wants to wear a hat, or a kilt, or crotch-less panties, I do not consider it any of my business (something I do remember being taught).
Sure, but so is showing up for diner in anything but white tie full dinner dress.
Customs change, and a hat isnt rude on the face of it, like chewing with your mouth open.
You are more tolerant on kilts than I.
Wait a minute. How is one rude, and not the other?