Welcome 35, not

gobear, what excellent points, all!

(I do so admire you for speding all that time at all those National Parks! I hope to do that as well some day—to be an employee. I see people of all ages working at Yosemite.)

msmith, ah I see a little better what you’re getting at. It’s true, we’re all different and we all enjoy different things and have different things that are important to us. And I see that you misunderstood at least part of what I was getting at when I described my pottery and art activities.

But you’ve sort of implied a bleak outlook for your future. You’ll “find something to do” when you’re older (what a plan!). You’ve cried “Bullshit!” to those on this thread who claimed that their 40s and 50s were better for them. And as gobear points out, you are mistaken. And so I also have to ask, why do you point to 40-50 years old as some “cut off” point? As gobear pointed out, people of that age range (and beyond) are still very fit and very active.

Regarding the “doing it while you are independent” thing—there is more than one time in your life to do this stuff. One of my friends, who is in her 60s, is very happy travelling all around the globe, staying active in local cultural events and political causes. She’s a very cool woman who looks far younger than she is and is always fun to talk to.

She’s been like this for as long as I’ve known her. She’s had these interests forever. She’s just following through with the things that were always her passions, now that her kids are out of the house and she has more time. And yes, as a matter of fact, she has several cats as well. :wink:

It’s none of my business what you plan for your future, but gleaning from your posts, it doesn’t sound like you’ve got a “plan,” other than to “find something to do.” And not that it’s any of my business, but maybe you should re-think that?

I learned to develop my own “plan” by looking at my parents, who were always active with something. (Interestingly enough, they never gave up on their dreams and interests, even though they had three squalling kids and home.) I learned from them that you must have these interests to look forward to in order to stay young. If you want to stay young in spirit and keep your mind sharp, you’ve gotta have something exciting to do, something engaging and challenging.

I also know people who are probably the kind of people you have been thinking about: these people sit around, go to work and come home, pay their bills, watch Jerry Springer, and as far as I know, don’t do much else. No reading, no cultural outings, no hobbies, no creative outlets, nothing. I daresay that a lot of these people “lived for the moment” when they were young (and there is nothing wrong with doing that sometimes) but they never thought ahead to anything else, never developed anything else in their lives. And now they are struggling to “find something to do,” but they are so stuck in a rut and their confidence is down and they can’t imagine breaking out of their self-imposed habits, and so they just do the same old boring things every day.

But, if they wanted to, they could get out of their ruts and learn something new at any time. But it becomes harder for some of them as the years progress, and they become the “I coulda” people: “I coulda done that if I’d started earlier.” “I coulda done that if I’d wanted to.” “I coulda, I coulda, I coulda.” Argh. (I’m not saying that any of us are exempt from saying “I coulda” occasionally, but when it is said frequently…well…that’s a waste and that’s sad)

I don’t think my outlook is bleak. Sure people keep active and stuff when they get older. I just think that there is something special about when you are younger and everything is new and fresh. At 30, hanging out with a couple of buddies and a keg playing Asshole seems stupid. At 17, it’s the coolest thing in the world. It’s a lot better being the youngest guy in your group at work than the oldest. And when you get married, unless you plan on cheating on your wife, you are basically never going to experience going back to a girl’s apartment for the first time again (sure it doesn’t matter now…I’ll ask you again in 10 years).

It’s not that you can’t do certain things when you get older. But you only get to experience “firsts” once in your life and I get the impression that there are fewer and fewer “firsts” the older you get.

I’m kind of wondering how techchick is doing? Are you out there?

I was really cranky at one of the posts here that said, in essence, “if you ain’t dying, or on skid row, get over it”.

Same kind of person that says “snap out of it” when a person is clinically depressed no doubt.

Well, I hope you’re doing okay techchick, seems as if there are quite a few folks with a touch, or more than a touch of the blues.

Hang in there.

I have to answer this because it’s pissed me right the fuck off. I’ll be 35 in January and I feel techchick68s pain. I’ve done quite a bit in my life and I’m STILL looking at myself thinking “why am I not where I want to be?” and as far as your stupid questions…
I’m a 10 year cancer survivor that lost a husband to cancer 5 years ago
I have sold plasma to pay the rent and eat. I was also a hooker for a few months because I had nothing else to sell but myself.
I’ve had a house destroyed. Not by a cruise missile but by an arsonist. I was in the hospital for 6 months recovering from burns and my 5 month old baby girl died in the fire. I still feel the pain after 6 years.
I have 2 friends LIVING with AIDS
I now have 3 beautiful people in my life that love me. This wasn’t always the case. I once lived on the streets with noone but myself and a mangy dog that ate better than me.
Not starving to death but what the fuck does any of these questions have to do with the OP? People like you should just shut the fuck up. ASS. :mad:

Absolutely nothing wrong with masturbation, mental or physical.

** msmith537**

At 48, I’m still experiencing “firsts”.
I also am far more confident about who I am and how I got here.
Things that used to stress me totally in my 30’s are either not even worth consideration now or easy peasy to deal with.
My friendships are deeper.
I certainly enjoyed the past decades but I don’t feel that I’m condemned to stale repetition simply because I’m older.

I don’t think it should be bleak. But you sure as hell made it sound bleak in some of your above posts.

My mom is pretty damned old, and like jlzania, she’s seeing a lot of things “fresh.” There are a lot of things in this world; you aren’t going to experience them all by age 30.

And that’s a bad thing?

OK, I know what you mean. But there is no “law” that says you can’t have fun at all phases of life.

Why?

Sometimes being the one that “knows stuff” or has “been there done that” is a great advantage, and such people get an extra measure of respect. That’s not a bad thing.

Then don’t get married.

No law says you have to.

There are always going to be “firsts.” If you were to learn pottery, no matter how old you are, you are experiencing a “first.” I’ve seen a lot of older people experience this “first” in pottery classes. It’s a cool thing to see.

But there’s also a great benefit to using your youth (or any time of your life that you have more “free time”) to develop something more lasting. To build and build upon something—a skill, an accomplishment. It makes the transition of time go so much better and nicer. So much more fulfilling.

It’s also cool being around people of different ages and stages of their lives. I love hearing my older friends tell me stories of their youth, the things they learned, accomplished, experiences that they had that were before my time. And I enjoy telling people who are younger than me stories about things that I did that were before their time.

One thing I’ve learned from hanging around so many people of varying ages is that excitement in creating something makes you young. And this excitement will also bring you many “firsts,” no matter how old you are.

It’s a great thing. And, like I said before, I think the sooner you have some inkling about what things you are going to be doing for the long run, the happier that transition to middle age and beyond will be.

And one last thing, regarding techchick: where are you?!? You feeling OK, hon? Don’t worry, you are a fabulous chick with lots of talent and potential, and you are going to be fine. We all have sucky phases in our lives. It gets better.

I should correct this: “My mom is pretty damned old, and like jlzania,”

I didn’t mean this to sound like I think you are “old”, jlzania! It’s just that my MOM is old! :slight_smile:

Oh sure you didn’t, yosemitebabe.
[sub](Gets walker and shuffles towards the bathroom in search of a fresh Depends)[/sub] :smiley: