Welcome to hell Jihadi John, please take a seat on the nearest burner.

Somewhere on the planet is (well was in any case) an Uber driver who made a bad career choice.

Not any more…

See, there is a benefit to banning women from driving.

Jihadi John was a coward. There are no reports that he was anything other than a sadistic jailer who guarded Western hostages. He tortured and murdered bound and unarmed prisoners. It’s difficult to see how anyone could considered that to be a “fight to the death”.

Yes, Jihadi John was a coward.

Were you scared because this monster hid behind a mask? This monster wore a mask because he didn’t want to be identified and killed or captured sooner than he was.

Yep, apparently some sources accept you can eviscerate half a vehicle.

The problem is who decides who dies, and how many other people in the vicinity it’s cool to also kill.

At that moment it’s unaccountable, unidentified, likely unqualified people saying … we think it might be this guy.

We all know stories of how people apparently killed by drone have popped up again - no one says ‘well, who did we kill that last time?’. No one is accountable for those killings, for any drone, missile, bombing relating to alleged targeted killings.

But isnt that true if modern warfare in general? How many innocents died in the bombing of Hamburg or Tokyo or London or Warsaw? If the choice is simply a binary yes or no I would vote yes. And obviously intelligence a d operational details cant be made public. We have no choice but to trust our leaders.

I’m not up on the accuracy of the drone that was used but if it was firing non-explosive rounds, it’s a least a possibility.

And yay, they hit the right half: the wonders of modern technology!

Kind of makes you wonder how they take out large chunks of hospitals.

War isn’t a judicial proceeding. When you confront the enemy on the battlefield, you don’t read them their rights and ask a jury to decide if you shoot shoot at them.

This isnt a jousting match. Medieval history forum is to the left.

Is that where we are now - total war, ultimate sacrifice, democracy suspended national government? Not yet I hope.

If you just give up on legal process you end up with, at the very best, Guantanamo, which demeans all of us and what we seriously stand for. It’s really, really hard but I think we do need to be aware this is not a good option.

The problem being that he will probably be congratulated upon becoming a martyr.

But what are the other options? Inaction isnt a very good option.

What did we do before drones?

Yes, I think some collateral damage is a risk you run with war. In this instance, it sounds like reasonable efforts were made to minimize them.

To be clear, I’m good with this kill on the facts now in evidence. Masks won’t protect you. Maybe the next piece of vaporized meat in waiting will think a minute or two before being sadistic with hostages for no good purpose.

I don’t understand why we trumpet something like this.

  1. Do we really have that good intel in the area that we are 99.99% certain?

  2. And so what? He’s just one cog in the wheel, and someone else will take his place. These guys are not afraid of dying, generally. And we’ve created yet another “martyr”.

Carpet bombing. Would you prefer that?

It’s tech porn: look what we can do and no one white gets hurt.

War is so much more fun. Is it slowly becoming a video game …

We do nothing. They respond “Look at those wimpy assed decadent Westerners…lets get them”.

We bomb the fuckers. The respond “Look at those asshole Westerners…lets get them”.

Same result.

At least the second has the satisfaction of killing some assholes.